Slovakia v Ireland, Thursday, 08th October 2020

a lot of posters keep saying give Kenny “time” and he has to get his “system” across.is he not dealing with elite professionals?i mean the majority of the players in the squad play at clubs that like to pass the ball and all of them would of had a manger sacked by there club and a new manager come in with a new system and it’d be relatively quickly taken up by the team...I know,I know club managers have more player time...but my point is that Kenny isn’t trying to teach a way to play to a gang of AUL senior Saturday players.all of the players would of played a system close or maybe even played it at there clubs close to the one we want to play so why the long time frame to pick it up???

daithi wrote: The Gardai are on high alert again the villagers are worried about their missing

JUICEBOMB wrote: daithi wrote: The Gardai are on high alert again the villagers are worried about their missing It wasn’t really funny the first....or second time....let it go.

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JUICEBOMB wrote: a lot of posters keep saying give Kenny “time” and he has to get his “system” across.is he not dealing with elite professionals?i mean the majority of the players in the squad play at clubs that like to pass the ball and all of them would of had a manger sacked by there club and a new manager come in with a new system and it’d be relatively quickly taken up by the team...I know,I know club managers have more player time...but my point is that Kenny isn’t trying to teach a way to play to a gang of AUL senior Saturday players.all of the players would of played a system close or maybe even played it at there clubs close to the one we want to play so why the long time frame to pick it up??? The only thing I can think of is if it’s that hard to pick up a way to play then it’s down to the players that can’t play that way....which we’ve heard before.

Edited by t_rAndy - 09 Oct 2020 at 11:22pm

Artie Ziff wrote: Stickittotheman wrote: Artie Ziff wrote: Surprised to read the last few pages where Kenny was getting stick last night. Have some posters been watching Ireland the past 10 years? For once I feel very optimistic for the future, and Kenny like every other manager before him should be judged after 10 games and not 3.  Yes and in those 10 years we qualified for two major tournaments and missed out on the play offs for another. Nice football is all well and good but the results of the last 10 years have seen us have success. Even if the performances weren't great to watch. You do know you can have both, a decent way of playing and some moderate success in qualifying for the odd tournament, which is what most fans want. If you enjoyed going to games home and away while we played some of the worst football imaginable good for you. Personally I've had enough of it and I am very hopeful Kenny can deliver.

Stickittotheman wrote: Artie Ziff wrote: Stickittotheman wrote: Artie Ziff wrote: Surprised to read the last few pages where Kenny was getting stick last night. Have some posters been watching Ireland the past 10 years? For once I feel very optimistic for the future, and Kenny like every other manager before him should be judged after 10 games and not 3.  Yes and in those 10 years we qualified for two major tournaments and missed out on the play offs for another. Nice football is all well and good but the results of the last 10 years have seen us have success. Even if the performances weren't great to watch. You do know you can have both, a decent way of playing and some moderate success in qualifying for the odd tournament, which is what most fans want. If you enjoyed going to games home and away while we played some of the worst football imaginable good for you. Personally I've had enough of it and I am very hopeful Kenny can deliver.  That wasn't your point though. I enjoyed games like Estonia, Austria, Italy, Germany, Wales and others because we won. Did we play great in any of those games? Not really. Did we play nice stuff. Not really. But we won. I have watched Ireland the last 10 years and seen some great nights. I hope Kenny can deliver but I won't judge stringing passes together and playing with fluidity a success if we don't get results.

The point is , it will take time. Im willing to give it time. 3 games in and what Kenny is trying to achieve can be seen. Yes football is a results business, but to me this is not a business, this is my country and Im willing to let a few results go wrong now for the greater good. Our underage is going well and we have lads coming through. We will never beat the world but we can try and I think we will do just that with Kenny.

Edited by Sham157 - 10 Oct 2020 at 1:11am

Sham157 wrote: Stickittotheman wrote: Artie Ziff wrote: Stickittotheman wrote: Artie Ziff wrote: Surprised to read the last few pages where Kenny was getting stick last night. Have some posters been watching Ireland the past 10 years? For once I feel very optimistic for the future, and Kenny like every other manager before him should be judged after 10 games and not 3.  Yes and in those 10 years we qualified for two major tournaments and missed out on the play offs for another. Nice football is all well and good but the results of the last 10 years have seen us have success. Even if the performances weren't great to watch. You do know you can have both, a decent way of playing and some moderate success in qualifying for the odd tournament, which is what most fans want. If you enjoyed going to games home and away while we played some of the worst football imaginable good for you. Personally I've had enough of it and I am very hopeful Kenny can deliver.  That wasn't your point though. I enjoyed games like Estonia, Austria, Italy, Germany, Wales and others because we won. Did we play great in any of those games? Not really. Did we play nice stuff. Not really. But we won. I have watched Ireland the last 10 years and seen some great nights. I hope Kenny can deliver but I won't judge stringing passes together and playing with fluidity a success if we don't get results. The point is , it will take time. Im willing to give it time. 3 games in and what Kenny is trying to achieve can be seen. Yes football is a results business, but to me this is not a business, this is my country and Im willing to let a few results go wrong now for the greater good. Our underage is going well and we have lads coming through. We will never beat the world but we can try and I think we will do just that with Kenny.

Agreed. Gutted after last nights results. It’s the first time in years we started the game on the front foot trying to play ball against any decent teams. I’d take a few defeats along the way, if it meant enjoying watching Ireland again. 

JUICEBOMB wrote: daithi wrote: The Gardai are on high alert again the villagers are worried about their missing It wasn’t really funny the first....or second time....let it go.

bundy wrote: Sham157 wrote: Stickittotheman wrote: Artie Ziff wrote: Stickittotheman wrote: Artie Ziff wrote: Surprised to read the last few pages where Kenny was getting stick last night. Have some posters been watching Ireland the past 10 years? For once I feel very optimistic for the future, and Kenny like every other manager before him should be judged after 10 games and not 3.  Yes and in those 10 years we qualified for two major tournaments and missed out on the play offs for another. Nice football is all well and good but the results of the last 10 years have seen us have success. Even if the performances weren't great to watch. You do know you can have both, a decent way of playing and some moderate success in qualifying for the odd tournament, which is what most fans want. If you enjoyed going to games home and away while we played some of the worst football imaginable good for you. Personally I've had enough of it and I am very hopeful Kenny can deliver.  That wasn't your point though. I enjoyed games like Estonia, Austria, Italy, Germany, Wales and others because we won. Did we play great in any of those games? Not really. Did we play nice stuff. Not really. But we won. I have watched Ireland the last 10 years and seen some great nights. I hope Kenny can deliver but I won't judge stringing passes together and playing with fluidity a success if we don't get results. The point is , it will take time. Im willing to give it time. 3 games in and what Kenny is trying to achieve can be seen. Yes football is a results business, but to me this is not a business, this is my country and Im willing to let a few results go wrong now for the greater good. Our underage is going well and we have lads coming through. We will never beat the world but we can try and I think we will do just that with Kenny. Sorry but that’s bullshït. You’re happy to lose/draw games so long as the football we play is to your liking? You’re wrong in saying international football is not a business, it is. If the team do well then there’s a bit of happiness in the country among those that care. Before Covid, people went to the games and went to the puns, restaurants, bought gear and travelled abroad to watch the team. Do you think people would be happier with us playing unbelievable football and losing every game 1-0 or would they rather us win games whatever way possible? Irish football has never been about playing wonderful football. It’s been rough and ready stuff and it’s about beating the better teams by playing to our strengths. Now, it’s never been pretty watching Ireland but as long as we get a result or a win who cares? Do you think people remember the result in Russia in 2011 for anything other than Dunne’s masterclass and last ditch tackles? Do you think if Ireland played Russia off the pitch that night and had 70% possession and 30 shots on goal that people would remember that game?