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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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I agree regarding the winter World Cup, but the NL isn’t a priority and won’t be seen as such. Next season, however it runs, is likely to be shorter anyway, but given what is paid for the rights in (some) leagues they will always be put ahead of the NL by broadcasters.
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I am looking forward to Kenny taking over but mick has unfinished business here and should be allowed to see it through if he chooses to IMO
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deise316
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FAI will do whatever is cheaper, and despite it being presented to the public as a 'choice' between the 2 managers, by the time football comes back and given existing their finances were in tatters before this ever happened, there won't be much of a choice in reality.
On the surface of it, you would think that means likely be appointing Kenny. Only way I could see that not happening is if the ''exit bonus'' that McCarthy has was to be restructured as a year's payment instead, rather than him getting that lump in July or whatever, they continue to pay him for the year and see out the Euros. Mick would effectively be working a year for free, given he presumably gets paid his bonus one way or another. His agents and financial people would be telling him not to go for any option like that, but if he really was determined to see out the campaign, something like that may be the only way he gets to stay on. Government monies promised (and this goes for any given sector or Government Department) will likely be heavily revised after a couple of emergency budgets too, just about the only certainty out of this is that the FAI will no longer be able to afford paying McCarthy his inflated salary, or pay anyone else that type of money either. Rather than a simple pick of 2 managers, I think that is the real choice the FAI are left with, either persuade Mick to take a huge pay cut, or leave him go. |
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Interesting insights as always deise, it may be prove more complex as Mick would very likely be on some performance bonuses too. Bonus for qualifying, bonus for getting out of the group stages etc etc.
Given that he may not be given the opportunity to deliver on those bonuses, should the also be presented? Considering the financial turmoil if mick had some compassion for the situation it would be a good gesture to forgo such monies.
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Pipkin
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I think Mick has to go one way or the other.
Can’t afford his salary without doubt, firstly. Secondly, I am assuming the playoffs are this time next year, he will have no motivation to blood any new players (good chance we would see the same team start last week had it gone ahead as will next March fitness permitting), Kenny will have missed out on an ideal warmup (assuming 6 Nations league matches go ahead) for the World Cup qualifiers which he has already been appointed to take control for, and we are playing catch up simply due to sentiment caused by a mad deal struck by none other than the poison of Irish football. Mick is part of the old FAI - brought in as a short term fix to quieten the anti FAI sentiment and draw us to a Euros to polish JDs ego at any price to the detriment of Irish football in the long term. Time to move on. Mick was blessed to get the gig - if the revelations had come out 6 months earlier; different kettle of fish. Mick’s had his chance
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Pipkin
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False. McCarthy was signed on a multi million Euro salary, likely the last one for the foreseeable future, and in relative terms hopefully ever, because Irish football under Delaney was living beyond its means. He was a benefactor of the old FAI.
How can anyone possibly dispute that?
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ringerbell
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I didn't take that from what he said took. When you look at it in reality Mick's contract is a perfect example of how the old fai operated throwing money at the problem when in reality they couldn't afford it. Just look at the parting gift that's included in the contract for any evidence needed None of that's a direct attack on Mick McCarthy but it's reality that the situation we find ourselves in with the managerial contracts is testimony to how the old fai operated Delaney didn't want to risk not qualifying for the euros because that was going to be another key part of his legacy
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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The FAI have been paying managers beyond their means for years, even with the help of tax dodgers! Have a look at what other small football nations pay their managers.
No disrespect to Mick, but he is being massively overplayed.
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Newryrep
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The NL in the grand scheme of things isn't a high priority but they have currently have an agreed schedule of dates covering all UEFA members and 200 odd games over 3 periods that they can flog the TV rights to and even UEFA in the present climate will want the revenue especially as the euros were postponed . For the playoffs they need to accommodate 16 teams for 12 matches which could all happen on any Thurs/Tues either the clubs allow they players to be released and the leagues continue UEFA force the clubs to release their players and the league continues or the leagues are shelved for that weekend ( compromise maybe during a 'winter break' as not all clubs will be affected nor are there any big names in the playoffs) really hope the NL dates aren't shifted
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NR , i would say just about anything is off the table right now . Now where we will be in six months time is anyones guess .
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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For television companies, and as a result UEFA, ‘club’ football is a priority. They will do everything they can to get this season finished and to have next season as long as it can possibly be. Then they will worry about the Euros. I can’t see them even caring about the NL. It goes without saying that I hope I am wrong, but that’s the way they will be thinking.
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Drumcondra 69er
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From Dan McDonnell's indo piece today. "Nations League double-headers are marked down for September, October and November and calling them off would pose difficulties as the lucrative centralised TV contract which benefits every member nation is based on those fixtures being played."
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Bit of chatter going round of triple headers in October and November in order to leave the NL as is and tack the semi finals on in October and the finals in November. Not sure how that would work, Slovakia v Ireland Wednesday 7th October and our NL games the following Saturday and Tuesday stay as they are?
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Are UEFA that bothered about the nations? Their main aim is to keep the big five leagues and their top teams happy, not the nations. They may well play the NL, of course, but all they are concerned about is the CL and the leagues allowed to win it.
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williemc83
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Financial considerations will dictate what happens and on that basis I'd expect Kenny to take over.
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Drumcondra 69er
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It's intrinsically linked to the centralised TV deal with big penalties if thet're not played so yeah, I reckon so. Is it just your opinion they're not or are you basing it on anything you're reading or hearing?
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Just my opinion, but I have seen others agree. In fact, I have seen people talk about scrapping the Euros too. In fairness, many of those share my grievances about the shambolic nature of it, a nature I feel was deliberate. Either way, I think the Euros will definitely go ahead. Regarding the penalties, they would be la lot less than what they would make from finishing this season's CL and having a full one next season. UEFA will not want the penalties, but once the big clubs point out their concerns, particularly regarding the number of fixtures, I expect them to acquiesce.
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Drumcondra 69er
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Apples and oranges though. Bulk of CL money foes to the clubs, the centralised TV deal for internationals goes directly to the members.
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