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    Posted: 27 Oct 2019 at 9:09pm
Would you go back to how football used to be?

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Keep it but get the ref access to the telly himself like in MLS as well as having someone else looking at it.  Also he should be miked up to the stadium PA so he can explain his decision like NFL.

I think its good and entertaining but its being given a bad reputation by the idiots making the decisions.  Its all human error.
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Keep it but -

It would be good to hear the conversations/ decision by the TMOs
Only very obvious errors - a big toe offside is fine 
One replay in real time should clear most issues - if you have to watch it 3+ times then it’s not obvious 
Needs to be quicker

But in general the rules of football / VAR need to be made very clear and take away the grey area as much as possible.
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Bin it until there's a time when almost all referees are of a competent standard. Otherwise the system, no matter how good it could be is useless. If you have one cabbage making decisions on the pitch, and another cabbage making decisions in a VAR box, what is the actual point of the technology?
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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Bin it until there's a time when almost all referees are of a competent standard. Otherwise the system, no matter how good it could be is useless. If you have one cabbage making decisions on the pitch, and another cabbage making decisions in a VAR box, what is the actual point of the technology?
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Would you go back to how football used to be?

Go back to what exactly?

The maximum wage?
Black and White tv?
42 games per season?
Games on Christmas Day?
2 games in 24 hours?
2 games at Easter?
Teams numbered 1-11 only?
11 "home nations" players per team?
1 substitute allowed per game?
1 live game per month on ITV? At 3.30pm on a Sunday?
1 live game per week on Sports Stadium at 3pm on a Saturday? After every other sport has been covered after the show starts at 12 30pm?
The back pass to the keeper allowed?
Getting pised on/frost bite standing on the uncovered, pis-stench, fenced up terraces, drinking Bovril instead of Red Bull? How football  "used to be". 

Back to reality. No is the short answer. The long answer is, asking us to go back to pre-VAR football, is like asking us to go back to any of the above. VAR never promised flawless refereeing, it told us that more of the big decisions would be correct. Approx 30 decisions have been made by VAR so far in the EPL, 30 more correct decisions that we couldn't have in years gone by. Platini is out, Technology is in, its here to stay and it's not going away. 
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30?
There're been about 30 wrong ones this weekend alone ffs, no matter what your blathering on about black and white TVs for there 
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I’d like to see it more similar to rugby where the ref and the VAR/TMO have the mic and it’s being shown on the big screen.
When you see and hear the two converse about what they are seeing with the incident then I think you are a lot more willing to accept their point of view. Let’s be honest, we are greatly influenced by what we are told. For example, I didn’t think there was much in that Mane incident initially and thought it would be overruled, but then the commentators were so adamant it was a penalty that I just accepted it that i was wrong initially 
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

I’d like to see it more similar to rugby where the ref and the VAR/TMO have the mic and it’s being shown on the big screen.
When you see and hear the two converse about what they are seeing with the incident then I think you are a lot more willing to accept their point of view. Let’s be honest, we are greatly influenced by what we are told. For example, I didn’t think there was much in that Mane incident initially and thought it would be overruled, but then the commentators were so adamant it was a penalty that I just accepted it that i was wrong initially 



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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Would you go back to how football used to be?

Go back to what exactly?

The maximum wage?
Games on Christmas Day?
2 games at Easter?
Teams numbered 1-11 only?
1 live game per month on ITV? At 3.30pm on a Sunday?
1 live game per week on Sports Stadium at 3pm on a Saturday? 

I would like all these to come back!!

Games on Xmas day would be great. 

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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

I’d like to see it more similar to rugby where the ref and the VAR/TMO have the mic and it’s being shown on the big screen.


Exactly. It's one thing the rugby have spot on. VAR is also working far better in other leagues. The Premier League have just, made an unholy balls of it. And link the strands up rather than having the absolute farce of the dubious goals commitee overruling after the, fact like with the Silva goal, that added another level of incompetence to it. 


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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

I’d like to see it more similar to rugby where the ref and the VAR/TMO have the mic and it’s being shown on the big screen.
When you see and hear the two converse about what they are seeing with the incident then I think you are a lot more willing to accept their point of view. Let’s be honest, we are greatly influenced by what we are told. For example, I didn’t think there was much in that Mane incident initially and thought it would be overruled, but then the commentators were so adamant it was a penalty that I just accepted it that i was wrong initially 



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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

I’d like to see it more similar to rugby where the ref and the VAR/TMO have the mic and it’s being shown on the big screen.
When you see and hear the two converse about what they are seeing with the incident then I think you are a lot more willing to accept their point of view. Let’s be honest, we are greatly influenced by what we are told. For example, I didn’t think there was much in that Mane incident initially and thought it would be overruled, but then the commentators were so adamant it was a penalty that I just accepted it that i was wrong initially 



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keep it as is but I would force the refs to go over to the TV monitor and have stuff shown on the big screens. 

I'm fine with offside as it is, there has to be a cut off point, any leeway is bollocks
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 I don't understand why people think that having the ref look at a pitch side monitor would do much to help the situation in the PL. If both the referee and the VAR are of an appalling standard, which they generally are, most decisions they made are just guesswork. Tv monitor pitch side or not.
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Works well in MLS from what I have seen of it.  Plus the referee is of a higher standard that the goons in the monitor room.  He couldn't be any worse anyway!!
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