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Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

To make matters worse, the all knowing Company then forgot about the alien until Sigourney Weaver tells them about it in the sequel
 
You may have a point on the other stuff but not sure this is really a plot hole. There's a 57 year gap between the events in Alien and Aliens. Given what happened to the ship in Alien (self-destruction with death or loss of all crew onboard) you would imagine the nefarious nature of the plan would have been very much buried by the Company and knowledge of it restricted to a few individuals.
 
In the events of Aliens, Ripley is essentially dealing with an Unfair Dismissal tribunal. It would be entirely plausible that they would have had no knowledge of a top secret plan from over half a century earlier.
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The chronology looks something like this:

- The Company knows of the alien

- The Company sends a cargo vessel in a half-arsed operation to get it

- The cargo vessel is lost

- The Company forgets about the alien for decades

- The Company accidentally terraforms the planet with the alien on it

- The Company is told of the alien by Sigourney Weaver

- The Company then spends 2 entire films being highly interested in the alien again.


So the Company moves from being highly interested in the alien, to complete indifference, back to highly interested once again.

The Company acts in accordance with the plot. It plays the role of the baddie. It doesn't function as an independently minded business.

And that's got to be a plot hole in my opinion.

If the first movie had been about a crew accidentally discovering an alien, then the plot would have had a logic and consistency about it that would have run right the way through all 3 of the original films.

- A cargo vessel accidentally finds an alien

- The cargo vessel is lost

- The Company is unaware of the alien for decades

- The Company accidentally terraforms the planet with the alien on it

- The Company first learns of the alien from Sigourney Weaver

- The Company then spends 2 entire films being highly interested in the alien
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Was that the Die Hard Director's Cut with extra plot holes?
It's a little known fact that the director John McTiernan is a stage name John Sullivan used when writing in the US.  There used to be a US tv star called Ed Sullivan and he wanted to give himself a different surname to stand out more.
 
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Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Originally posted by Terzino Terzino wrote:

To make matters worse, the all knowing Company then forgot about the alien until Sigourney Weaver tells them about it in the sequel
 
You may have a point on the other stuff but not sure this is really a plot hole. There's a 57 year gap between the events in Alien and Aliens. Given what happened to the ship in Alien (self-destruction with death or loss of all crew onboard) you would imagine the nefarious nature of the plan would have been very much buried by the Company and knowledge of it restricted to a few individuals.
 
In the events of Aliens, Ripley is essentially dealing with an Unfair Dismissal tribunal. It would be entirely plausible that they would have had no knowledge of a top secret plan from over half a century earlier.

This you see in many real life companies where they secretly do things are funded only for projects to fail and funding scrapped. 

It may well have been the case a lot of it was redacted from the the company records. Then then went into terraforming and someone in the background who was aware of the alien situation knew something was on lv426 but didn't know exactly where. Suggested lv426 as a potential area for the terraforming project.

I think it was mentioned in Aliens that they've been terraforming there for the last 20 years.

Now this could just have been another way for the company to search for the alien under the disguise of doing something else, they simply didn't know where to look until Ripley told them where.
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When you have to invent such a convoluted story for why the Company acted as it did, then that's proof of a plot hole!


In anyway...


Return of the Jedi.


The Rebels steal an Imperial shuttle and get their hands on a codeword, to get them past security. So they get to the planet / moon and everything works perfectly. Everyone thinks they are Imperials just going about their business.

However, after getting past security they don't fly directly to their target. Instead they land in the middle of nowhere and spend their precious time skulking about and getting into speeder-bike chases.

They built a Wooden Horse, were granted access to Troy, and then didn't use it.
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In Home Alone Mrs. McAllister buys air tickets off an elderly couple at the gate.  How did she make it that far seeing as she wasn't a passenger?  Secondly the elderly couple would have had their baggage being boarded onto the plane.  That would have to be taken off.  Thirdly Mrs McAllister had no luggage with her but I will let that slide.
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

In Home Alone Mrs. McAllister buys air tickets off an elderly couple at the gate.  How did she make it that far seeing as she wasn't a passenger?  Secondly the elderly couple would have had their baggage being boarded onto the plane.  That would have to be taken off.  Thirdly Mrs McAllister had no luggage with her but I will let that slide.


Was watching this and immediately thought you'd have a field day with it LOL
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

In Home Alone Mrs. McAllister buys air tickets off an elderly couple at the gate.  How did she make it that far seeing as she wasn't a passenger?  Secondly the elderly couple would have had their baggage being boarded onto the plane.  That would have to be taken off.  Thirdly Mrs McAllister had no luggage with her but I will let that slide.


Was watching this and immediately thought you'd have a field day with it LOL


I must check if John Sullivan is on the credits at the end of the film
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Security wasn't as tight then days. Don't think it's a big stretch. But the baggage one is certainly a gaff from Hughes

Also when Harry trips over the trip wire at the top of the stairs and does a front flip, and then Marv has the spider left on his face (the greatest scream in cinematic history), the spider lands on Harry after Marv jumps up. But Harry is suddenly lying in the opposite direction.

What a mess! 
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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

Security wasn't as tight then days. Don't think it's a big stretch. But the baggage one is certainly a gaff from Hughes

Also when Harry trips over the trip wire at the top of the stairs and does a front flip, and then Marv has the spider left on his face (the greatest scream in cinematic history), the spider lands on Harry after Marv jumps up. But Harry is suddenly lying in the opposite direction.

What a mess! 



Ah no even in them days you had to have a ticket to get through security and to the gate. Unless some grumpy nitpicking aul lad on here wants to correct me.
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When Pesci walks in the back door and encounters the flame thrower - the default action would be to duck, run, move or whatever. He stood there for a few minutes.

The other guy walking up the stairs with the tar in the steps, why did he keep walking when his first foot stuck to the step?

The whole film is based on these flimsy unbelievable scenes.

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When Kev goes on the sledge down the stairs,it doesn’t line up with the front door. It’s not even close. 
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Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

When Kev goes on the sledge down the stairs,it doesn’t line up with the front door. It’s not even close. 

Its close enough. Close enough
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

When Kev goes on the sledge down the stairs,it doesn’t line up with the front door. It’s not even close. 

Its close enough. Close enough


Lets get it right Young Doherty.  There's more plot holes than an episode of OFAH!

I just found out Kevin isn't even his real name.  His real name is Macaulay Culkin.
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Also when Kevin's family and dad come back to the house from France they aren't even in the least bit concerned and are all casual.  This is the same family that was up the walls with worry in France calling the cops and panic buying tickets home :/
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When young Kevin goes to the shops to buy 2l milk, 2l OJ, Washing liquid etc and the bags burst.... he is walking along as if he was carrying a toilet roll on each arm as if it was nothing. 
In real life that much stuff would be tearing into your hands.

When the contents fall out you can see it’s fake.


Also noticed the sledge /stairs / door non-alignment.

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When the burglars hang him up on a clothes hook he is standing on a stool.
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

When the burglars hang him up on a clothes hook he is standing on a stool.
Gillian McKeith would be delighted with that stool LOL
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