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I do find that there is a sizeable portion of the Dublin following who get far more joy from others' misery than actually winning. Last year's semi final was absolutely dreadful with the abuse levelled at us in the Cusack.

But for all that we got plenty of commiserations, pats on the back etc after 2016 and 2017. Unfortunately Sid, I think the ridiculous FB and Twitter sh*te actually rubs off on a certain portion in real life. 
 
Those FB/Twitter Dublin pages are bandwagoning, knuckle dragging f'#kwits, blow in retards. They have some obsession with Mayo because they were never at a game before 2012. I had a good at some of them in the Quays Bar last year after the final replay while drinking with Evan Comerford and they started trying to sing some stupid song about Mayo. We just beat Kerry FFS.

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I do find that there is a sizeable portion of the Dublin following who get far more joy from others' misery than actually winning. Last year's semi final was absolutely dreadful with the abuse levelled at us in the Cusack.

But for all that we got plenty of commiserations, pats on the back etc after 2016 and 2017. Unfortunately Sid, I think the ridiculous FB and Twitter sh*te actually rubs off on a certain portion in real life. 
 
Those FB/Twitter Dublin pages are bandwagoning, knuckle dragging f'#kwits, blow in retards. They have some obsession with Mayo because they were never at a game before 2012. I had a good at some of them in the Quays Bar last year after the final replay while drinking with Evan Comerford and they started trying to sing some stupid song about Mayo. We just beat Kerry FFS.
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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Down in munster anyway we were nearly all delighted outside kerry to see dublin Bridge a large gap. You'd always have a lot cheering for Dublin due to the large partisan crowd that added to the occasion. When Dublin started on their 3/4/5/6 in a row run people simply got sick of seeing the same team over and over again winning it. The leinster championship not even worth watching anymore. I used to cheer for Kilkenny as my second team as half the family are from there but I want nothing more then KK to lose now after they won so much and made the hurling boring for a few years.

On top of that there's the added dislike that dublin as a county received massive special treatment by the GAA not afforded to others. It's just natural lads. If any other county was in your position we'd want them to lose as well. Nothing personal.

On the hurling I'd noticed that Meath and Kildare hurlers were making progress. I can't for the life of me understand why the GAA when they came up with the save hurling in the capital plan, didn't extend it so wicklow, Kildare, Westmeath, Louth and Meath. Give them the exact same treatment and grow the sport in more then just dublin. The same should have applied to the likes of mayo, Antrim, down and kerry where there's already a respectable hurling presence. 
The East Leinster project was specifically aimed at some of those counties. It will take time for the impact of that to be seen. 
I get that but that project came 15 years after dublin got the preferential treatment. It should have been included day and date with dublin. And it doesn't include all the counties I mentioned either. It's also a pale shadow of the investment into Dublin. Almost a token gesture to what the capital gets. 
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Dublin used to do a scheme where you got a stamp for every league game you attended that guaranteed championship tickets didn’t they? Maybe all counties should just reward the fans who attend most games? Be easy enough to put together and very fair.
I get a ticket now and again for the gaa but I’d give it to a fan who’d attend a lot, I’ve not been bothered with Gaelic football since the late nineties, it’s a totally different game now.
Kind of sounds familiar alright. They have the Parnell Park pass which was great when league games were actually played there but when they changed to Croke Park you had to bring along the pass to change it for a ticket which made it more awkward tbh. In 2011 the week before the final the Dublin county board reopened the Parnell park pass to anyone guaranteeing them a ticket for the final in a week so basically people joined up paying about €200 for the privilege of buying a €70 ticket. Think it was the Parnell Park stand scheme they reopened basically another form of ticket touting 
I got a Parnell terrace ticket for 120 I think it was the Friday before the Donegal game in 2011

I made plenty use of it for club games too plus it covered the league games

If I remember rightly you could go in to Dorset Street before the first league game and pick up your tickets for all the league games for free
Yeah that’s what you had to do alright! It just meant you couldn’t really decide to go last minute and drive to Parnell you had to have it well planned in advance during the week for the Croke Park games

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Originally posted by MayoMark MayoMark wrote:

Originally posted by oldbilly oldbilly wrote:

Dublin used to do a scheme where you got a stamp for every league game you attended that guaranteed championship tickets didn’t they? Maybe all counties should just reward the fans who attend most games? Be easy enough to put together and very fair.
I get a ticket now and again for the gaa but I’d give it to a fan who’d attend a lot, I’ve not been bothered with Gaelic football since the late nineties, it’s a totally different game now.

There has been a Season Ticket since 2009 so this is already in place really 
I think what oldbilly is referring to is a sort of half assed scheme that was run before this, I'd say it was about 1998 or 1999

I think you had to buy a programme for home league games and there was a cut out token in the programme which "proved" you'd attended these games

I very much doubt many people used this scheme and Dublin didn't get to All-Ireland finals in this time anyway

I can't remember exactly when the Parnell Park pass came in I think it was around 2003/04, I definitely remember cycling over to Parnell Park itself to pick up my ticket for the Mayo semi-final in '06 as I had a pass that year
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Originally posted by Trigboy 10 Trigboy 10 wrote:

Originally posted by oldbilly oldbilly wrote:

Dublin used to do a scheme where you got a stamp for every league game you attended that guaranteed championship tickets didn’t they? Maybe all counties should just reward the fans who attend most games? Be easy enough to put together and very fair.
I get a ticket now and again for the gaa but I’d give it to a fan who’d attend a lot, I’ve not been bothered with Gaelic football since the late nineties, it’s a totally different game now.
Kind of sounds familiar alright. They have the Parnell Park pass which was great when league games were actually played there but when they changed to Croke Park you had to bring along the pass to change it for a ticket which made it more awkward tbh. In 2011 the week before the final the Dublin county board reopened the Parnell park pass to anyone guaranteeing them a ticket for the final in a week so basically people joined up paying about €200 for the privilege of buying a €70 ticket. Think it was the Parnell Park stand scheme they reopened basically another form of ticket touting 
I got a Parnell terrace ticket for 120 I think it was the Friday before the Donegal game in 2011

I made plenty use of it for club games too plus it covered the league games

If I remember rightly you could go in to Dorset Street before the first league game and pick up your tickets for all the league games for free
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Originally posted by oldbilly oldbilly wrote:

Dublin used to do a scheme where you got a stamp for every league game you attended that guaranteed championship tickets didn’t they? Maybe all counties should just reward the fans who attend most games? Be easy enough to put together and very fair.
I get a ticket now and again for the gaa but I’d give it to a fan who’d attend a lot, I’ve not been bothered with Gaelic football since the late nineties, it’s a totally different game now.
Kind of sounds familiar alright. They have the Parnell Park pass which was great when league games were actually played there but when they changed to Croke Park you had to bring along the pass to change it for a ticket which made it more awkward tbh. In 2011 the week before the final the Dublin county board reopened the Parnell park pass to anyone guaranteeing them a ticket for the final in a week so basically people joined up paying about €200 for the privilege of buying a €70 ticket. Think it was the Parnell Park stand scheme they reopened basically another form of ticket touting 

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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Down in munster anyway we were nearly all delighted outside kerry to see dublin Bridge a large gap. You'd always have a lot cheering for Dublin due to the large partisan crowd that added to the occasion. When Dublin started on their 3/4/5/6 in a row run people simply got sick of seeing the same team over and over again winning it. The leinster championship not even worth watching anymore. I used to cheer for Kilkenny as my second team as half the family are from there but I want nothing more then KK to lose now after they won so much and made the hurling boring for a few years.

On top of that there's the added dislike that dublin as a county received massive special treatment by the GAA not afforded to others. It's just natural lads. If any other county was in your position we'd want them to lose as well. Nothing personal.

On the hurling I'd noticed that Meath and Kildare hurlers were making progress. I can't for the life of me understand why the GAA when they came up with the save hurling in the capital plan, didn't extend it so wicklow, Kildare, Westmeath, Louth and Meath. Give them the exact same treatment and grow the sport in more then just dublin. The same should have applied to the likes of mayo, Antrim, down and kerry where there's already a respectable hurling presence. 
The East Leinster project was specifically aimed at some of those counties. It will take time for the impact of that to be seen. 


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Down in munster anyway we were nearly all delighted outside kerry to see dublin Bridge a large gap. You'd always have a lot cheering for Dublin due to the large partisan crowd that added to the occasion. When Dublin started on their 3/4/5/6 in a row run people simply got sick of seeing the same team over and over again winning it. The leinster championship not even worth watching anymore. I used to cheer for Kilkenny as my second team as half the family are from there but I want nothing more then KK to lose now after they won so much and made the hurling boring for a few years.

On top of that there's the added dislike that dublin as a county received massive special treatment by the GAA not afforded to others. It's just natural lads. If any other county was in your position we'd want them to lose as well. Nothing personal.

On the hurling I'd noticed that Meath and Kildare hurlers were making progress. I can't for the life of me understand why the GAA when they came up with the save hurling in the capital plan, didn't extend it so wicklow, Kildare, Westmeath, Louth and Meath. Give them the exact same treatment and grow the sport in more then just dublin. The same should have applied to the likes of mayo, Antrim, down and kerry where there's already a respectable hurling presence. 
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Originally posted by oldbilly oldbilly wrote:

Dublin used to do a scheme where you got a stamp for every league game you attended that guaranteed championship tickets didn’t they? Maybe all counties should just reward the fans who attend most games? Be easy enough to put together and very fair.
I get a ticket now and again for the gaa but I’d give it to a fan who’d attend a lot, I’ve not been bothered with Gaelic football since the late nineties, it’s a totally different game now.

There has been a Season Ticket since 2009 so this is already in place really 
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Dublin used to do a scheme where you got a stamp for every league game you attended that guaranteed championship tickets didn’t they? Maybe all counties should just reward the fans who attend most games? Be easy enough to put together and very fair.
I get a ticket now and again for the gaa but I’d give it to a fan who’d attend a lot, I’ve not been bothered with Gaelic football since the late nineties, it’s a totally different game now.
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Yeah in fairness the final always brings out the bandwagoner. I've seen plenty of lads from Westport with tickets in the hand for all of our finals in the last few years who haven't ever darkened the door of MacHale Park. It's why I'd be in favour of expanding the season ticket scheme. 
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Trigboy 10 Trigboy 10 wrote:

The Dublin fan has changed a lot in the last 20 years loads of idiots on the Hill and even the Cusack etc who haven’t got a clue now
One time i remember a Dublin player was down injured and some fool was shouting for the other team to put the ball out as if it was soccer. The late 90’s early 00’s was a great time on the Hill but some amount of bandwagoners have come along since.
There has always been eejits on the Hill though and there has always been bandwagoners

The cider drinkers down beside the Nally stand always existed 

The pre-match drinkers at the canal down by Binn's bridge always existed

There was a riot during the 1984 All-Ireland semi-final

Somebody here recently referenced a Union Jack being burned at the Kildare replay in 1998, I remember that

I remember lads running onto the pitch at half time at the 2003 qualifier against Derry in Clones, wee weeing on the pitch

The Hill has got milder over the years if anything

And bandwagoners exist outside of Dublin also!
The Mayo women sat beside me for the 2016 final first game was asking which stand was the Hogan Stand !
The reality is that probably a majority of the support that each county brings to a final are fair weather fans, or at least non-regular match goers - some non-regular match goers from the counties are proper GAA people who do good work in clubs



Ah sure I do know that. I was a bit annoyed that day as I knew a few people (Some Dubs but maybe more Mayo people) who would be good fans but had struggled to get tickets. 

I used to have a Parnell pass and just collected me final tickets on the Tuesday in 2011 and 2013 but I don't live in Dublin anymore so don't have the pass anymore
 
I struggled a lot in 2016 both matches and 2019 replay to get them, in each case I only got one around half an hour before throw in

2017 I didn't get one at all and watched the first half in the Clonliffe House, myself and a lad I got talking to during it decided we'd go up at half time and try and blag our way in - it worked - we sort of targeted two young lads at the gate who were clearly just on a nixer and pushed our way past them - then I legged it up the Cusack Stand ramp as fast as could and sat in the very back corner overlooking Hill 16 - had a great view of Keegan's goal

2015 and especially 2018 were easy to get tickets for, the 2019 draw wasn't too bad either

Dublin-Mayo is always harder to get tickets for than Dublin-Kerry 

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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Trigboy 10 Trigboy 10 wrote:

The Dublin fan has changed a lot in the last 20 years loads of idiots on the Hill and even the Cusack etc who haven’t got a clue now
One time i remember a Dublin player was down injured and some fool was shouting for the other team to put the ball out as if it was soccer. The late 90’s early 00’s was a great time on the Hill but some amount of bandwagoners have come along since.
There has always been eejits on the Hill though and there has always been bandwagoners

The cider drinkers down beside the Nally stand always existed 

The pre-match drinkers at the canal down by Binn's bridge always existed

There was a riot during the 1984 All-Ireland semi-final

Somebody here recently referenced a Union Jack being burned at the Kildare replay in 1998, I remember that

I remember lads running onto the pitch at half time at the 2003 qualifier against Derry in Clones, wee weeing on the pitch

The Hill has got milder over the years if anything

And bandwagoners exist outside of Dublin also!
The Mayo women sat beside me for the 2016 final first game was asking which stand was the Hogan Stand !
The reality is that probably a majority of the support that each county brings to a final are fair weather fans, or at least non-regular match goers - some non-regular match goers from the counties are proper GAA people who do good work in clubs



Ah sure I do know that. I was a bit annoyed that day as I knew a few people (Some Dubs but maybe more Mayo people) who would be good fans but had struggled to get tickets. 
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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Trigboy 10 Trigboy 10 wrote:

The Dublin fan has changed a lot in the last 20 years loads of idiots on the Hill and even the Cusack etc who haven’t got a clue now
One time i remember a Dublin player was down injured and some fool was shouting for the other team to put the ball out as if it was soccer. The late 90’s early 00’s was a great time on the Hill but some amount of bandwagoners have come along since.
There has always been eejits on the Hill though and there has always been bandwagoners

The cider drinkers down beside the Nally stand always existed 

The pre-match drinkers at the canal down by Binn's bridge always existed

There was a riot during the 1984 All-Ireland semi-final

Somebody here recently referenced a Union Jack being burned at the Kildare replay in 1998, I remember that

I remember lads running onto the pitch at half time at the 2003 qualifier against Derry in Clones, wee weeing on the pitch

The Hill has got milder over the years if anything

And bandwagoners exist outside of Dublin also!
The Mayo women sat beside me for the 2016 final first game was asking which stand was the Hogan Stand !
The reality is that probably a majority of the support that each county brings to a final are fair weather fans, or at least non-regular match goers - some non-regular match goers from the counties are proper GAA people who do good work in clubs


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Originally posted by sid waddell sid waddell wrote:

Originally posted by Trigboy 10 Trigboy 10 wrote:

The Dublin fan has changed a lot in the last 20 years loads of idiots on the Hill and even the Cusack etc who haven’t got a clue now
One time i remember a Dublin player was down injured and some fool was shouting for the other team to put the ball out as if it was soccer. The late 90’s early 00’s was a great time on the Hill but some amount of bandwagoners have come along since.
There has always been eejits on the Hill though and there has always been bandwagoners

The cider drinkers down beside the Nally stand always existed 

The pre-match drinkers at the canal down by Binn's bridge always existed

There was a riot during the 1984 All-Ireland semi-final

Somebody here recently referenced a Union Jack being burned at the Kildare replay in 1998, I remember that

I remember lads running onto the pitch at half time at the 2003 qualifier against Derry in Clones, wee weeing on the pitch

The Hill has got milder over the years if anything

And bandwagoners exist outside of Dublin also!
The Mayo women sat beside me for the 2016 final first game was asking which stand was the Hogan Stand !


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Originally posted by Trigboy 10 Trigboy 10 wrote:

The Dublin fan has changed a lot in the last 20 years loads of idiots on the Hill and even the Cusack etc who haven’t got a clue now
One time i remember a Dublin player was down injured and some fool was shouting for the other team to put the ball out as if it was soccer. The late 90’s early 00’s was a great time on the Hill but some amount of bandwagoners have come along since.
There has always been eejits on the Hill though and there has always been bandwagoners

The cider drinkers down beside the Nally stand always existed 

The pre-match drinkers at the canal down by Binn's bridge always existed

There was a riot during the 1984 All-Ireland semi-final

Somebody here recently referenced a Union Jack being burned at the Kildare replay in 1998, I remember that

I remember lads running onto the pitch at half time at the 2003 qualifier against Derry in Clones, wee weeing on the pitch

The Hill has got milder over the years if anything
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I'm surprised to hear of this nastiness. For all of the Dublin v Mayo finals I've been in the stand rather than on the hill and therefore sat with a number of Mayo people as well as Dubs. Has been nothing but friendly both ways.
I'm not doubting anybody else's experiences who have seen and heard differently - Just taken a bit aback at it. 
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