Éire v Switzerland 05.09.19 |
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RogerMilla
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it sure was , perfectly aimed , he'll get more for us
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The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own.
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Cabra Hoop
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Yep, to generate power and direction is very difficult. Reminded me of Cas's goal against England in 1990.....
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22173 |
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I really can't help but think that this qualifying campaign was a missed opportunity to overhaul the whole set up (of course it's great we're still in with a chance of qualifying) and gave Stephen Kenny a free hit at blooding as many players into the set up as possible, while also implementing a style of play. World Cup 2014 Qualifying - 0 wins from 6 games against Germany, Sweden and Austria Euro 2016 Qualifying - 1 win from 6 games against Germany, Poland and Scotland World Cup 2018 Qualifying - 2 wins from 6 games against Serbia, Wales and Austria Euro 2020 Qualifying - 0 from 2 games Denmark and Switzerland 3 wins in 20 games against the better sides in our qualifying groups. 4 wins in 24 games if you include play off games against Bosnia and Denmark. The odd victory and plucky draws will start turning into defeats very very soon and I would be shocked if we took anything off Denmark or Switzerland in our last two games. |
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coyne
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Let's look at the FAI perspective. All they care about is qualifying for Euro 2020 because Dublin is a host city, they don't care how Ireland qualify or who's in charge aslong they get there. Things will most certainly get worse under Kenny because that's when the squad is under a transitional period.
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22173 |
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Which is short sighted beyond belief imo. We are in essence delaying overhauling this group of players and style of play, which is way past it's sell by date for another 2 years at least. We still won't qualify anyhow, I have seen nothing to suggest we can actually beat Denmark or Switzerland.
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Cabra Hoop
Roy Keane Joined: 06 Feb 2012 Location: Royal County Status: Offline Points: 10829 |
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Agree with everything you say GD, but Coyne has a valid point. In the short term its all about the €€€ especially considering the FAI's financial concerns. Frustrating as it is, better to look to after EURO 2020 for any type of improvement
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cildaratown
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Who should replace him in the starting XI?
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Left foot
Ray Houghton Joined: 16 Aug 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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We've got 3 really tough games left and we need to win at least one and not lose the others.
Barring injury or suspension the team last night is the team that will play the last three games. Even if the highly rated parrott gets a couple of games and even the odd goal with Tottenham from now until then it's unlikely hes going to be included (maybe a cameo for the last 5 mins) |
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horsebox
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McClean I would say will slot in at left back and Judge or Brady will play left midfield.
Although I would personally rather see O'Dowda. |
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22173 |
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I understand completely re the whole €€€ point of view from the FAI but that will never change. If we had an organisation where a huge portion of any prize money was pumped back into the LOI and our grassroots I would be less dismissive but the FAI are pinning their hopes on us qualifying to pay off stadium debt and other businesses/persons they owe money to.
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Stickittotheman
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I never really understand the qualifying 'free hit' type mentality. Why would that be a good idea? Surely the aim is to qualify for tournaments? I for one hate watching the World cup or Euros with us sitting at home. We are in a good position in the group and it is entirely possible we could go into the last game against Denmark at home needing a win to qualify. Considering where we were a year ago that would be an excellent campaign and who would write us off taking revenge on the cocky Danes?
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Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22173 |
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Matt Doherty will be back for the Georgia game, if McCarthy had any sense he would play him at left back or even look at Cunningham or Derrick Williams.
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The White Cafu
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Pyro
Looked to be a scrap in the middle of 114 at half time lastnight, anyone see what happened??
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22173 |
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It's rather simple to grasp, no? We play a putrid brand of football, constantly riding our luck in games (nabbing draws especially) and are showing no signs of evolving with the majority of the rest of Europe in our style of play. Seeing as we have an array of really good young players coming through, do you honestly think they'll be ready to slot straight in the first 11 in just over a years time when we're looking to replace a lot of the players who simply aren't of the required standard? The bigger picture here is that if we don't qualify for Euro 2020 it will be read 2 tournaments qualified for in 18 years. But aye, once we're grinding out draws and blagging the odd win against sides around our ranking or higher is going to come back to bite us in the arse.
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Het-field
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At a base level, not qualifying for the European Championships has now become something for the minow and the unlucky few. With 32 teams you really need to be qualifying. The WC is a little more hit and miss as you are competing, more often than not, for play-off positions. The WC therefore becomes a less reachable goal, and is likely to be seen as a more palatable “free hit”. I also think that we are assuming way too much about what Kenny would like to do. For arguments sake, say many of the current squad enjoy a good season at club level. Into the bargain, if we qualify for Euro 2020. Between the two, it gives the vast majority of our existing squad a good claim at being retained in the post McCarthy era. Events and intentions may conspire to make Kenny a different Senior Team manager than we might expect.
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horsebox
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Cunningham or Williams are not in the squad and are probably unlikely going to be either, and if they are, they will be there to make up the numbers. Mick has a hard on for Judge, whilst struggling to get game time in L1 - he's going to play under Mick end of. Which is why I think McClean maybe moved left back to accommodate Judge or Brady. It will be interesting to see how plays there on Tuesday, as this might be an indicator of who starts against Georgia. Edited by horsebox - 06 Sep 2019 at 1:40pm |
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DUBLIN DOC
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Mr. Snrub
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Realistically, 5 points should be enough to secure qualification (an away win in Georgia followed by 2 more draws). I fancy Denmark to beat the Swiss which could potentially see ourselves and the Danes only needing a point in our final game. A backdoor playoff is almost a certainty should we fail to make the top 2. Plenty of room for optimism and before we know it, Kenny will be heralding in the new era with some serious prospects coming through. The future looks bright
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"Here's Robbie Keane...... yeeeessss! That is no more than Ireland deserve!"
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