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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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I expect there to be much more tactical clarity under Mick than in the last year or more of MON and by that I mean less aimless punts up the pitch, for the midfield to keep a tighter shape without the ball and for us to be better with set-pieces. You can certainly question the logic of publicly questioning the ability of the players available, but there is no way of sugarcoating the limitations of those midfielders. Denmark, the team we are supposed to be trying to finish above have Delaney, Schone, Hojbjerg and Eriksen. We have to accept the realities of the situation. I understand football fans need hope, but some sort of rationality needs to be kept.
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10655 |
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I totally agree with that PM, but much of our difficulty came from
The way we played and set up from the Neil Taylor red card in Dublin. The gap between the midfield and forward line against Austria, the “hold what we have in Georgia”, and the second half against Denmark, which was made worse by the emaciation of the midfield. Last year, I’m not sure we had 10 shots on target over the whole season, and some selections were bizarre. We ain’t going to be world beaters, but there is a lot to be said for letting a team play, because a conservative style with weak players is going to be quickly found out.
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Maccatacca
Ray Houghton Joined: 01 Jun 2016 Status: Offline Points: 4220 |
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Arguably the worst thing about Rice declaring for England is that he is almost purpose made for disrupting the likes of Eriksen from playing just behind the striker. We would of had a half decent chance in midfield with him there breaking up the play and keeping the ball. None of our midfielders are any good on the ball and none of them have any physical attributes that make them unpleasant to play against. We've no pace, no physical strength and no nastiness in the spine of the team.
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Banjaxed
Liam Brady Joined: 21 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 2965 |
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The worst crop of midfielders we've had in the 30 years I've been supporting Ireland. I won't deny that, but they're not THAT bad. I refuse to believe those players are as bad as what we witnessed the last 2 years. And while these players will never be world beaters, I have every confidence that Mick will prove what a complete spoofer O'Neill was. |
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lassassinblanc
Paul McGrath Cheese, it’s not just for eating Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Clairefontaine Status: Offline Points: 16469 |
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Perhaps that squad was given last night or this morning and a member of the FAI medical team was sent to assess them and came back with an update after the squad was announced . Any links to Mick confirming btw
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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I am still of the opinion that we hype our players up to irrational levels.Perhaps I am the opposite, but I think our midfield is awful, certainly in comparison with our opponents. There isn't a technically competent player or passer amongst them. Not one of them are capable of putting their foot on the ball and taking the sting out of the game, even the lads in the Championship. I have always been a fan of Glenn Whelan, someone I see as much maligned and underrated footballer, but he shouldn't still be in the squad at 35. At the same time, he is still the most suitable of all those midfielders in the squad for international football and should probably start.
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Het-field
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I actually think that’s a reason to credit McCarthy. I was no fan of retiring players and Whelan never struck me as ready to go. If he is the only player who can fulfil that role, MM has identified that. Unfortunately, it looked like we had an obvious choice, who is no longer interested or eligible.
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valo88
Liam Brady Joined: 10 Oct 2012 Status: Offline Points: 1616 |
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I reckon MON was banking on Rice staying when he pushed Whelan to "retire". If he was still in charge Id say he'd have been too stubborn to call Whelan up and persist with a crocked McCarthy who hasnt played any first team ball in over a year with injury.
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Het-field
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Don’t forget Valo, he was playing Christie in midfield at the conclusion of his tenure.
I actually think the Christie omission is an example of a break with the old.
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grannyrule
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I agree with all your points. We have a very poor midfield. Georgia, Switzerland and Denmark will be licking their lips.
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ripbomb
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Het-field
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Don’t agree. Some of those games were some of the most abjectly poor Irish performances in recent memory. Christian Eriksen’s comments in November made miserable reading.
Also, Whelan and Arter and different types of players amongst themselves and further different to Christie.
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Jack Charlton Teenage Kicks, so hard to beat Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Status: Offline Points: 7707 |
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Such bull.
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ripbomb
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NewtNewbie
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I think we can infer several things from the squad announcement as to the likely composition and structure of the team Mick's likely to field. Firstly, Christie's omission seems to suggest that it'll be either Coleman or Doherty at right-back and he isn't going to play both on the right flank. This means one of our better players, probably Young Doherty, by some way the outstanding Irish player this season, is going to be left out of the starting line-up.
The fact that he's named just three centre-halves with Ward dropping out means we'll probably be playing with a flat back four with Stevens at left-back. We know Mick will go with five in midfield and one up top because he's already said as much. Whelan at 35 isn't being brought back go sit on the bench, and is in all probability going to start as the first-choice holding midfielder. In fairness he's still the best of what's available to us in this role. Mick's enthusing over Judge I think says he's got a good chance of being in the starting XI, for his set pieces if nothing else. If he doesn't make it at least one of Hourihane or Brady will for the same reason. McGoldrick's relationship with Mick allied to his form this season means he'll likely start, though not as number 9 up front on his own as some on here seem to think. He's more of a link player, and will probably play behind Maguire or Long. All supposition, but I'd imagine the team will look more or less something like this: Randolph Coleman Duffy Keogh Stevens Whelan Hendrick Judge McGoldrick O'Dowda Maguire |
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grannyrule
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I think Mick will pick something along the lines of :
Randolph
Coleman Duffy Keogh Doherty Arter Whelan Brady Hendrick McClean Long |
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Banjaxed
Liam Brady Joined: 21 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 2965 |
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If Bamford got a call from England, you can guarantee he wouldn't be postponing anything.
There seems to be a collective Stockholm syndrome amongst some fans in Ireland. Bottom line: If an international call up is refused in anyway or delayed... Endgame. Fook Bamford. Won't even get near the squad when Kenny takes over anyway.
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Jack Charlton Teenage Kicks, so hard to beat Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Status: Offline Points: 7707 |
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No way. O dowda has to play in form. Mcgoldrick i think deserves a chance and id like to see maguire up there aswell. Against gibraltar i think we could possibly include hourihane aswel. Good at set pieces and creative. Dont think we need hendrick arter and whelan in theone team esp against gibraltar.
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