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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by greenscene greenscene wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

I think we know how dodgy Georgia are. Do Denmark and Switzerland?
Denmrk surely do from the last campaign. They struggled a little in Tblisi too if i remember correctly. 

When did Denmark last play them in a qualifier?
 
2004 and it was a draw in Tbilisi. The Swiss drew with Georgia in Tbilisi in 2002.

None of the current players would have been involved. 

The Danes are a fairly cocky bunch, would love to see them underestimate Georgia. 

This Swiss will be too clever for slip ups like that I fear.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lassassinblanc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 3:05pm
Agreed, I think the Swiss will take close to full points (dropping points to us in Dublin and Basel Wink)

Sommer is a quality keeper

Akanji, Schar,Elvedi are all very good defenders comfortable on the ball

Left back they have Ricardo Rodriquez
Mbabu at right back is a great talent (Why Newcastle let him go i'll never know), not sure if Lichtsteiner is still about but if he is he's a very good attacking option have defense.

In midfield Xhaka is a tough tackling but again capable on the ball midfielder
Zakaria like wise is a real talent
Zuber is no slouch

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote colemanY2K Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 3:12pm
Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by greenscene greenscene wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

I think we know how dodgy Georgia are. Do Denmark and Switzerland?
Denmrk surely do from the last campaign. They struggled a little in Tblisi too if i remember correctly. 

When did Denmark last play them in a qualifier?
 
2004 and it was a draw in Tbilisi. The Swiss drew with Georgia in Tbilisi in 2002.

None of the current players would have been involved

The Danes are a fairly cocky bunch, would love to see them underestimate Georgia. 

This Swiss will be too clever for slip ups like that I fear.
 
I'm aware of that.
 
My point is that they are no better now than they were back then. The way some people are talking you'd swear the Danes and Swiss are far too professional to slip up in Tbilisi. Far from it as history suggests.
 
We need to rid ourselves of this defeatist attitude and instead be the one's who clinically dispatch Georgia. Lets not be one's looking for favours.
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The Swiss are massively overrated. They have a nack for catching good teams at bad times, I remember they beat Brazil a few years back in a friendly and jumped into the top 15 in the rankings and have been punching down ever since. Caught Portugal on the first match day of 2018 qualifiers too.
 
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Originally posted by counterlock counterlock wrote:

The Swiss are massively overrated. They have a nack for catching good teams at bad times, I remember they beat Brazil a few years back in a friendly and jumped into the top 15 in the rankings and have been punching down ever since. Caught Portugal on the first match day of 2018 qualifiers too.
 
 
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Originally posted by DangerHere DangerHere wrote:

Originally posted by counterlock counterlock wrote:

The Swiss are massively overrated. They have a nack for catching good teams at bad times, I remember they beat Brazil a few years back in a friendly and jumped into the top 15 in the rankings and have been punching down ever since. Caught Portugal on the first match day of 2018 qualifiers too.
 
 
Recently destroyed Belgium (world number 1) in their Nations League game
 
After losing to Qatar a few days earlier. They'll take points off Denmark because they love playing big teams, and drop points to Georgia
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Originally posted by counterlock counterlock wrote:

After losing to Qatar a few days earlier.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote pre Madonna Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by counterlock counterlock wrote:

Originally posted by DangerHere DangerHere wrote:

Originally posted by counterlock counterlock wrote:

The Swiss are massively overrated. They have a nack for catching good teams at bad times, I remember they beat Brazil a few years back in a friendly and jumped into the top 15 in the rankings and have been punching down ever since. Caught Portugal on the first match day of 2018 qualifiers too.
 
 
Recently destroyed Belgium (world number 1) in their Nations League game
 
After losing to Qatar a few days earlier. They'll take points off Denmark because they love playing big teams, and drop points to Georgia
That Qatar result, in a completely meaningless game, is exactly why I think we will batter them home and away.
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Originally posted by DangerHere DangerHere wrote:

Originally posted by counterlock counterlock wrote:

The Swiss are massively overrated. They have a nack for catching good teams at bad times, I remember they beat Brazil a few years back in a friendly and jumped into the top 15 in the rankings and have been punching down ever since. Caught Portugal on the first match day of 2018 qualifiers too.
 
 
Recently despite troyed Belgium (world number 1) in their Nations League game

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When was the last time (if ever) the Swiss failed to qualify?
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

When was the last time (if ever) the Swiss failed to qualify?

Euro 2012
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

When was the last time (if ever) the Swiss failed to qualify?

Euro 2012

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On paper the swiss dont look anything special and never have but there like a machine. Always seem to play well enough to come thru these groups. Dosent mean we cant beat them tho.
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Look, I'm not going to get ahead of myself. As Irish fans we always believe but we are 3rd for a reason. 

Denmark and Switzerland won't be worried about us. 

The Norths performance will give us hope and us against Denmark in Copenhagen for the 1st leg of the playoff. Yes we didn't create but they were piss poor also. Destroyed in Dublin to be fair but that's another story. 

I'm hoping Mick can nullify Eriksen and we can actually create something. 

MON couldn't figure it out but we need to win our home matches. We seemed to play with fear at the Aviva and that hindered us. Maybe the lads were terrified as they had no prep and no tactics. 

We have the easiest start possible and we should have at least 9 points and a few games under out belts before we play the best team in the group. 

Luck has defo played its part. 

Aim for 3rd - expectation 
Get 2nd - bonus ground 

Just want to see us play better and have an identity as I have said previously. 
Go for it at home and have more than 5 passes in a row. 

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What's the point in aiming for 3rd?

We are a home nation. It's imperative that we do everything possible to finish in the top 2.

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Ah no I am optimistic we can run whoever close for 2nd spot.  We should have points on the board early and momentum on our side. 
Why the optimism? Realistically, third is our level. I'm genuinely at a loss at it. It seems to be solely based on our ability to beat Gibraltar and Georgia.

Exactly. Denmark and Switzerland have shown they are very competent 2nd tier European teams, and we are well crap. Those recent games against Denmark, they didn't seem to bothered competing.

I'm just hoping Mick can make us play a lot better than the 10 years of pain we have been served. And he has a year to get ready for a play off Nations League game
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

What's the point in aiming for 3rd?

We are a home nation. It's imperative that we do everything possible to finish in the top 2.


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We are a home nation. 

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