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BaileNuisBhoy 
Liam Brady 
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Usual story not in the least bit surprised either
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zizu Kilbane
Jack Charlton
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 2:39pm |
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There isn't much in that at all
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"Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?"
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 2:40pm |
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would love to know where he grew up! calling somebody a scumbag for that
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Lenny82
Liam Brady
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Previous managers of the Senior team were slated on here for not promoting youth. Can't blame Kenny if half his squad are injured, Covided or unavailable. We are already depending on a number of Championship lads approaching 30 who can't get a game at club level and we are pushing to stay in Pot 2 for WCQ draw. There was enough talent in that 21's squad to win at home to Iceland.
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DeclanDaly
Ray Houghton
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 2:43pm |
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In fairness, it looks like Collins was waiting for an opportunity to clock him. Not wise and not what you want from one of your better players in the last few minutes of a major qualifier
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Exactly this. Results should be paramount. At half time, the eir sport team were talking about how well we were playing but ultimately we were one nil down. The game right now is about fast transitions of play than dom inatingpossesion. We had plenty of possesion but lacked a threat. Iceland were clinical. But look we could have won that game on another day tho, that mandriou ball in to grant and obafemis chance. We do need to calm expectations that these players are the future of our national team. Troy hopefully will develop into the striker we need but he needs time.
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mully_85
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calling a young lad a scumbag for that incident seems a little excessive to me alrite
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lassassinblanc
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 2:44pm |
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What's the deal with the Armenia games?
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kevin100
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 2:50pm |
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Regardless of players moving up to the seniors that roster of players was more then good enough to win today.
Roy Keane gets a lot of flack off our own I even see some journalist crying like a baby on Twitter the other night as he was offended by Keane saying Maguire wanted the ball more then Duffy in the duel to the goal and it about as accurate a statement as you could wish to use to describe the situation Every bit of me was being optimistic in that at home to Iceland and Luxembourg if was ours to take the bull by the horns even allowing for the Italy game the hard work had been done in getting us in this position in an admittedly tough group. Like others are saying here though what happened is what another part of me was almost resigned to had the key to the door and never opened it so typically Irish any bit of expectation/standards we are too afraid to take that next step. from the keeper on the first goal to the sending off to Parrott giving the ball away poor decision making in front of goal just lack of composure so dissapointing.
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Four-Four-Two
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for pushing the player in the back of the head? innocuous stuff, hardly worthy of "scumbag"
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You Tell Me
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Where is this idea coming from that these players were somehow more than good enough to win today, it's incredibly arrogant to be honest against an Iceland team that had a few senior internationals involved. If they were good enough to win they would have done, simple as that.
Realistically out of today's starting team how many will go on to win 10 plus senior caps? Certainly not the keeper and probably only Collins out of the back four. Coventry and Ronan are tidy footballers but I don't think they'll ever be senior regulars for us. The likes of Elbouzedi and Obafemi aren't good enough either. Scully? I don't see it. There were probably 8 or 9 future regular senior players in the under 21 squad this time around. It was an unusually talented bunch. However by the time the most important game came around there was only one of those players in the starting team. It was probably a combination of bad luck and bad management, but we absolutely blew this chance one way or another. If Knight. Molumby and O'Shea don't feature prominently against Wales serious questions will need to be asked here. |
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 3:10pm |
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Disappointing result again... its just not happening for irish football at the moment.
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 3:22pm |
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Iceland had a pretty clear game plan, keep it tight, nick a goal, then keep it tighter. But they do have some technically very good players on the pitch, even if their emphasis wasn't on passing it around.
We weren't vastly superior, but were the better team throughout the game. But we make simple mistakes at times and get punished for them.
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kevin100
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 3:30pm |
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Where the idea that they weren’t good enough to grab the bull by the horns and win today. What’s arrogant about it?? Not underestimating Iceland who are clearly a decent side but at home against them look at our players where they are vs Icelands players and where they are at club level etc then it’s not an unreasonable argument that our lads on paper probably would shade it. There’s no set of results in the group to indicate we weren’t at least as competent if not overall a better side the Iceland especially if your taking Iceland’s away form isolated. Also at home too the onus is on you to go and win in general. |
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Liam Green
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 3:35pm |
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I think it’s stating the obvious but that sending off killed it for us. Ten mins or so to go including extra time and I think we’d have won it ...Collins went in to try to save kayode getting sent off but lost the the plot a bit. Collins is very young so best to make these mistakes now . I thought he played well and some other positives as well. Wind was a disaster for us . I’m a bit gutted really but in time some good things to come from our underage teams in producing players for the senior set up which is the main goal
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kevin100
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 3:41pm |
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Ahh yeah plenty talent there and the amount of lads moving up is great to see. Collins himself f**ked up but he’s a real good prospect long term hel learn from that today and like you say initially was trying to nearly defuse rather then destruct. Just in that they put so much good work into that campaign and for us not to take advantage of it is frustrating.
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 3:59pm |
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Not having a go at your post but this cliche 'he'll learn from today''. Did he not know that gettign sent off from pure stupidity was perhaps not a good idea before the event when you need everything to go right for you with 10 mins to go chasing a win? Some footballers are absolutely thick
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Jack Charlton
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Posted: 15 Nov 2020 at 4:04pm |
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What's arrogant is expecting an almost entirely second string side to go out and be better than one of our main group rivals. What happened earlier in the competition is largely irrelevant - obviously our best team was a match for anyone in the group and they showed that, but you can't lose almost your entire team and just expect to continue winning. Jason Knight is scratching his hole on the bench this evening for the seniors - how does that benefit Irish football when he could have been a leader in the under 21 team? The likes of Byrne, Hourihane and Curtis are on the bench to cover midfield anyway, so if you're not going to start him, why take him away from the Under 21s? Absolute madness.
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