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t_rAndy
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The football we are playing is much better on the eye. Even in defeat you are thinking, that was a good auld game.
Unfortunately, looking at the table there is not really any progress from the Mon or Mccarthy days. We are 3rd in qualifying groups and third in nations league a long way off winning them. Kind of stuck even though, as said, the football is better to watch. Kind of does feel we get no rub of the green at all under Kenny. It's kind of like we won't get anything we don't fully earn, I.e. we won't sneak a win or draw we shouldn't have.
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AonSceal19
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I see both arguments tbh but my main worry is the dropping of points against lower seeds . I would still leave him in charge as we’re straight into qualifiers after nations league. I’m not confident but i would leave him for euros qualifiers
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“Randolph sends it long…and Shane Long is in behind the German defence… Shane Long against Neuer…. 1-0!.. What a moment!”
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zizu Kilbane
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I've been ardently pro Kenny since he's been appointed, for a number of reasons. But it now boils down to he either qualifies for the Euros or he's gone.
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"Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?"
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MayoMark
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Look the euros is the be all and end all here. If we fail to qualify he's gone. If it starts disastrously, he could be in massive danger.
Personally think it would be mental to let him go at this stage. For me, clear improvements are visible. Results, sadly, lacking at this moment in time. Parrott scores a sitter tonight, we're having a very different conversation. Small margins
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They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car...
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50%lesssugar&salt
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On paper, we are the third best team in the group and should be finishing the group with 10 points rather than a possible 7. Could have beaten Scotland away and Ukraine away - we were competitive in all games and played some lovely football.
Prefer to play football the right way as Brian Clough used to say.
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Fitz
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I like Kenny as a person, I think his heart is in the right place but, regardless, if we haven’t 4-6 points, minimum, from our first three qualifiers he should walk
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Roberto Baggio
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Kenny has us playing above the sum of our parts at present. I’m talking playing style wise and how good it is to watch, not results wise yet. When you consider it’s basically a championship team, with 2 EPL regulars, 1 EPL squad player and a couple from league 1.
There’s been a lot of improvement in the last year At some point the results have to improve though. I’m confident that they will His job being under threat shouldn’t even be being discussed after tonight
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reddladd
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Euro 24 is what it’s all about. I can’t see any other manager who would come in and make us that much better. Very little in it tonight away to a team who beat the top dogs a few days ago. As someone said, Parrott scored a sitter and we win the game. Euro qualifiers not til March so another 6 months club football for players to improve. We’ll be in Germany causing an upset!
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I could agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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Healy52003
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We're going to be 3rd seeds for the Euros qualifiers and in a possible group with seeds 1 and 2 been the likes of Belgium and England
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John Nice
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Or we could get Hungary from pot 1 and Austria from pot 2, what's with the negativity?
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Idah Dream!
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John Nice
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I agree, we are playing really good football with a gaggle of youngsters and Championship players. We are hopefully learning and improving all the time. Anybody who doesn't see at least some green shoots at this stage is a bit blinkered IMHO.
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Idah Dream!
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Artie Ziff
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I want Kenny to stay on for the Euros but I wouldn't be expecting us to get to the Euros. Maybe a lucky draw from pot 1 and 2 and we will.
If I had to put a bet on it, it would be to finish 3rd.
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It would damage this forums' reputation
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Trap junior
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Flatters to deceive. Played well but at the end of the day the table reads played 5, Won 1, Lost 3
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RKeane
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Kenny has done a brilliant job with us, we’re playing football for the first time in 20 years with the worst squad for over 40 years. Most Ireland fans are deluded and think we have some sort of divine right to qualify for tournaments, we don’t, we no longer have the squad of 2002 or even 2010.
Top players in the 3 squads Scotland - McGinn, Tierney, Robertson, McGregor, Che Adams, Armstrong, Hickey, Christie, Mctominay, Gilmour Ukraine - Zinchenko, Mudryk, Yaremchuk, Yarmolenko, Tsygankov, Bondar, Mykolenko, Malinovsky Ireland - Collins, Bazunu |
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YESSSS! IT'S THERE
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Trap junior
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So the old " we do have the players but Mick/MON wont let them play" has now changed to the "we dont have the players"
The team was worse under Mick in 2019 and he had us in contention.
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Fruice
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While being simplistic it’s the nail on the head. Some lads are convinced if we play the beautiful game it’s all that matters to hell if we get beat. Results are the be all and end all in sport it’s why you play it especially at the top level. If you want to be entertained go watch the Harlem Globe trotters
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t_rAndy
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Of course it's also results. It's great we are playing better and actually outplaying good sides at different times.
If we fail to qualify or even fall out of contention early then it will be a case of thanks, but we need to try something differently. I think we are in a better place now than the end of MoN and Mccarthy. Kenny deserves a lot of credit as he has put faith in youth Edited by t_rAndy - 25 Sep 2022 at 10:26am |
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MayoMark
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Personally I was sick of not looking forward to Ireland games.
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They finally did it man... They killed my f**kin' car...
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