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Trap junior
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Did he "burst onto the scene"? Very few lads from Derry burst onto the scene. Edited by Trap junior - 15 Nov 2021 at 12:43am |
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TooOldForThis
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We finished 3rd in the group, achieved our seeding. On that basis alone, SK should be offered an extension to his contract. We are, 9 points off the pace for second spot? Let's hope that was a fluke
and next time out we will be in a position to at least challenge for 2nd spot. I didn't want SK to be manager, I saw nothing in his CV that warranted that. Up until the last 4 matches we were abysmal. Up until the last 20 minutes we were no great shakes last night either. But if we can carry over the form in our last few matches into the NL that would be great. It's a pity there is gap until the start of the NL.
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TooOldForThis
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Murph you seem to be very triggering for some SK fanatics on here. But I notice you never respond in kind to their juvenile name calling! Fair play!
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t_rAndy
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Groups are based on points and you need the points on the board to qualify but if you look at our head to heads based on an aggregate score over the two games then it looks like this: Serbia - Lost 4-3 Portugal - Lost 2-1 Luxembourg - Bettered 3-1 Azerbaijan - Better 4-1 The campaign was a disappointment that we didn't qualify and especially we didn't hit the ground running and recover from Serbia game to beat Lux at home like we really should have but given the complete change in style and personnel, the fact that we are really only a goal off Serbia and Portugal while being better than the other two, it's perfectly acceptable for me and I don't even call this campaign a write off. We have learned so much and think we are in a good state ahead of next year. Edited by t_rAndy - 15 Nov 2021 at 9:15am |
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Given's zimmerframe
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you could argue that we were unlucky not to take 6 points from Portugal
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There was a passage of play last night where we passed it around for a few minutes in the opposition half. Nothing came of it but it was wonderful to see. The players can pass the ball and looked comfortable.
Anybody have the passing stats for last night? UEFA will post them up next sometime next week. Kenny deserves a shot at the Euro’s based on the current form. It’s a pity he couldn’t have got a big win over Portugal.
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aviva8
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To think we had managers like trap, o neill etc.. saying we don't have the players to pass the ball around.A joke really when you consider we had probably stronger squads and better players back then
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djhegzy
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We made 458 passes to 373, and we had a passing accuracy of 83%, compared to their 77%
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
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Trap was one lazy coont. All indications are that MON and Keane weren't much better either.
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horsebox
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And both of them actually qualified for the Euro's. You forget to mention Charlton as well considering he was the hoof ball maestro.
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It was far across the sea,
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John Nice
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Twould be nice if we could just stop the sniping now and get behind the management team and the players. Kenny has done well to recover from a poor start to his tenure and things are definitely improving apace. Some may retain a degree of scepticism and thats fair enough, but it's time to give him the benefit of the doubt and get behind him imo.
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Idah Dream!
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horsebox
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I'm fully behind Kenny, I don't understand the constant comparison to other managers who actually qualified for tournaments. It's just bizarre. Trap and O'Neill did it their way, it had relative success. Definitely not easy in the eye. |
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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tetsujin1979
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Completed 378 of 453 passes(83.44%)
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Good man, now following you on Twitter. I still have nightmares of our games v Georgia a few years ago when we couldn’t string 3 passes together in the opposition half. I feel like we have missed a lot of chances but still scored 20 goals in 12 games. The future looks bright.
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tetsujin1979
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Cheers, I was wondering if that was you alright
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planning
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It's not even a poor argument. Whether you're Ireland or San Marino, if you're not qualifying, it doesn't make the slightest difference what game you brought it to. Nobody remembers losers, and losing is what we've specialised in, for the past 20 years. It's been an awful campaign by any stretch for all sorts of reasons, hopefully a short term sacrifice for long term gain. Thank God it's over with now, let the rest of them get by without us, with the hassle of a winter World Cup that nobody wants, and we can now focus on getting ready for the next campaign. |
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Baldrick
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anyone think Kenny needs to go and do some
Communications classes now and learn how to speak properly. 😀😀😀
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AKA pedantic kunt
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Het-field
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He has actually show himself to be very brave when you think about it. He didn’t go begging to David McGoldrick, or kept picking McCarthy hoping for availability, or bring McGeady and Westwood back when perhaps form and need may have suggested it was a good idea. He could have continued to separate Coleman and Doherty, but works them in consort. He could have focussed on Shane Long and Scott Hogan, rather than new and young lads.
There is a lot to suggest that the road he has travelled is the right one, when there were obvious, safer alternatives. The trouble was, the same results with the safer options would have made his case harder to make. Instead he can point to result improvement, player growth and managerial coordination.
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