It's the Stephen Kenny Thread

Had to laugh when Brady tried to reverse the situation on Sadlier and asked him why he wouldn't wait to give Kenny a contract. Sadlier gives a perfectly reasonable argument with excellent points about the friendlies in March and NL being a waste of time if Kenny isn't the right man. Brady realises he has no comeback so tries to dismiss the response 

9fingers wrote: Brady couldn’t praise SK, praising SK would only compound the lies himself Trap & Tardelli told us about player ability 10 years ago. Our team 10 years ago was far superior individually than our current one but we were coached out of playing football.

TooOldForThis wrote: Devrozex wrote: 9fingers wrote: Brady couldn’t praise SK, praising SK would only compound the lies himself Trap & Tardelli told us about player ability 10 years ago. Our team 10 years ago was far superior individually than our current one but we were coached out of playing football. That's exactly it. It was pretty embarrassing stuff from him last night really. He's hamstrung by the past so not really sure if there's any point continuing to include him on the panel. There are a small cohort of posters who struggle to deal with someone having a different opinion to them. You can usually identify them by their use of the term "embarrassing" as a substitute for an actual counter argument. By the way, you may want to consider changing your signature, this is 2021!

John Nice wrote: TooOldForThis wrote: Devrozex wrote: 9fingers wrote: Brady couldn’t praise SK, praising SK would only compound the lies himself Trap & Tardelli told us about player ability 10 years ago. Our team 10 years ago was far superior individually than our current one but we were coached out of playing football. That's exactly it. It was pretty embarrassing stuff from him last night really. He's hamstrung by the past so not really sure if there's any point continuing to include him on the panel. There are a small cohort of posters who struggle to deal with someone having a different opinion to them. You can usually identify them by their use of the term "embarrassing" as a substitute for an actual counter argument. By the way, you may want to consider changing your signature, this is 2021! I just dont agree with the logic of Brady's argument. Waiting until 4 games in to a 6 game NL campaign and then changing manager would be a mistake. I think post Luxembourg is the time to make the decision about who manages the team for the next three years and it would take a very peculiar result and performance at this point for me to offer the contract to anybody other than Kenny given the clear signs of improvement and the buy in from the players/staff/fans.

Devrozex wrote: TooOldForThis wrote: Devrozex wrote: 9fingers wrote: Brady couldn’t praise SK, praising SK would only compound the lies himself Trap & Tardelli told us about player ability 10 years ago. Our team 10 years ago was far superior individually than our current one but we were coached out of playing football. That's exactly it. It was pretty embarrassing stuff from him last night really. He's hamstrung by the past so not really sure if there's any point continuing to include him on the panel. There are a small cohort of posters who struggle to deal with someone having a different opinion to them. You can usually identify them by their use of the term "embarrassing" as a substitute for an actual counter argument. By the way, you may want to consider changing your signature, this is 2021! He's perfectly entitled to hold an alternate view but the 'embarrassing' part is when he can't provide a rationale for it. As stated above it's pretty clear he sees praising the current set up as indirectly denouncing the one he was part of but he's hardly likely to ever admit that. So instead just offers an opinion with zero substance behind it. What's the point?

Devrozex wrote: 9fingers wrote: Brady couldn’t praise SK, praising SK would only compound the lies himself Trap & Tardelli told us about player ability 10 years ago. Our team 10 years ago was far superior individually than our current one but we were coached out of playing football. That's exactly it. It was pretty embarrassing stuff from him last night really. He's hamstrung by the past so not really sure if there's any point continuing to include him on the panel.

TooOldForThis wrote: Fozz wrote: To read some (v few, mind) views that Kenny's contract is all down to the match Sunday v Lux just goes to show how shortsighted some people are. For me, he gets a new contract regardless of what happens Sunday as he has shown that this team have something, we can play, we can get results and we are improving all the time, with only more improvement to come. Sure, we will have bad days, but so be it.  It's a marathon, not a sprint. We could be in a battle, create lotsa chances, dominate the game end to end and they steal a bizarre goal...and Kenny goes because of that as we lost? What absolute nonsense. Take all the games over the course of two campaigns, and judge on the basis of that.

Cabra Hoop wrote: 4 home games completed, 3 draws and a defeat. 2 goals scored including an og. Away performances were better, but need to be getting 70-80% of points at home to stand a chance of qualifying. We got 25% this campaign. Lots of room for improvement especially in goalscoring department, Robinson is decent but a bit of a flat track bully. Scoring goals is going to be our greatest challenge.

I think this would be different to the 4th place finishes in 2005 and 2013. Kenny held off on making efforts on the rebuild until the post play off matches, and by the time we got to March there were so many moving parts that something was likely to give. Since June he has really figured out his preferred players, and is working closely with them. Since Andorra the only really unexpected disappointment was the Azerbaijan game in Dublin, which we had the better of.