It's the Stephen Kenny Thread

Bandwagon wrote: Trap junior wrote: doherty wrote: John Nice wrote: GreenDodger93 wrote: It never ceases to amaze just how bad Kenny is at speaking. He either can't form a sentence or can't end a sentence. Couldn't imagine sitting through his team meetings  I couldn't give a f**k if he did his interviews in pidgin mandarin, it's football not debate club, he needs results, not elocution lessons!  Exactly. Sick of hearing people on about his speech. Pathetic excuse. If he speaks to the players in that manner it would look like he hasn't a clue.   You've got to be commanding and speak with conviction and confidence. Alex Ferguson, Pep Guardiola, Klopp and any manager worth his salt owns the room when they speak.  Kennny looks like he is about to have a nervous breakdown under the strain of having to speak. You only have to look at a clown like Trump.  A man who talked more sh*t than anyone yet spoke with such confidence that people believed any old sh*t he told them and thought he was a God. Kenny stumbling through simple sentences makes him look like he is nervous and doubtful. Its perception but as Royston says ''perception is reality''. Shot yourself in the foot giving Pep as an example, hes struggles through media duties too and not because of the language barrier but because hes not a very good public speaker. Stumbles of his words and trails of sentences repeatedly while fidgeting about and not making eye contact. Not to mention its a bit ironic that your user name is after a manger that spoke pigeon English at best and needed an interpreter to get his lost in translation message across. The players are on record of not having a balls notions what he was on about half of the time. Then theres O'Neill who used to have to send Keane out to do media duties for him because he was too precious to handle any criticism. When he did do media duties he was either being a smart arse to interviews or having a right go at them.

John Nice wrote: Indeed, some of the Kenny Out cultists seem to still be yearning for Trappatoni who couldn't speak English let alone Irish.

Trap junior wrote: Bandwagon wrote: Trap junior wrote: doherty wrote: John Nice wrote: GreenDodger93 wrote: It never ceases to amaze just how bad Kenny is at speaking. He either can't form a sentence or can't end a sentence. Couldn't imagine sitting through his team meetings  I couldn't give a f**k if he did his interviews in pidgin mandarin, it's football not debate club, he needs results, not elocution lessons!  Exactly. Sick of hearing people on about his speech. Pathetic excuse. If he speaks to the players in that manner it would look like he hasn't a clue.   You've got to be commanding and speak with conviction and confidence. Alex Ferguson, Pep Guardiola, Klopp and any manager worth his salt owns the room when they speak.  Kennny looks like he is about to have a nervous breakdown under the strain of having to speak. You only have to look at a clown like Trump.  A man who talked more sh*t than anyone yet spoke with such confidence that people believed any old sh*t he told them and thought he was a God. Kenny stumbling through simple sentences makes him look like he is nervous and doubtful. Its perception but as Royston says ''perception is reality''. Shot yourself in the foot giving Pep as an example, hes struggles through media duties too and not because of the language barrier but because hes not a very good public speaker. Stumbles of his words and trails of sentences repeatedly while fidgeting about and not making eye contact. Not to mention its a bit ironic that your user name is after a manger that spoke pigeon English at best and needed an interpreter to get his lost in translation message across. The players are on record of not having a balls notions what he was on about half of the time. Then theres O'Neill who used to have to send Keane out to do media duties for him because he was too precious to handle any criticism. When he did do media duties he was either being a smart arse to interviews or having a right go at them. Pep not appearing confident?  You're 'avin a giraffe! The bit in bold is a total lie btw.   The players are on record as saying the opposite in fact.  That story came from journalists putting words in Marc Wilson's mouth. Like I say its nothing to do with the language barrier.  Its speaking with confidence and self assurredness whether you speak Japanese, Mandarin, English, German or Spanish.  Its body language and having leadership qualities. Trap had conviction, and owned press conferences.  Mick McCarthy also owns his press conferences. Take their introduction in late 2018 at the joint press conference.  McCarthy's one was forst.  Mick came in and cracked jokes, had the media eating out of the palm of his hand.  The enxt day Kenny walks in a stutters his way through and looked overwhelmed.

I dont think be should be in ahead of those, my point was: its easy for people to look past the level the player is playing out while clamouring for one player but then use the same argument of level the player is playing at while clamouring for a player who missed out to someone playing at a lower level or not getting their game. 

As for managers who can't speak English they still can get their message across to the players and how he wants them to play , now as for getting sacked there are not many who have not i would say if they are in the game more than 7 years .

Greenie50 wrote: t_rAndy wrote: I dont think be should be in ahead of those, my point was: its easy for people to look past the level the player is playing out while clamouring for one player but then use the same argument of level the player is playing at while clamouring for a player who missed out to someone playing at a lower level or not getting their game.  Thought Clark was poor in March. When the squad was announce for last months games, to be frank I said Omobamidele shouldn't be anywhere near it over Clark or Lenihan, but he proved me wrong. Omobamidele's displays vs Portugal & Serbia were a mile ahead of Clark. Though Kenny did say yesterday Clark was hoping to be available for the November games, so maybe he's actually carrying an injury.

Strikes me more as a basic answer rather than possibly giving the truth of why Clark wasn't selected. Backs to the wall defending deep he's grand, but when the RCB and LCB are asked to push forward and join in with attacking play he's just not good enough. He was also poor back in March, especially his defending against Serbia.

Egan and Duffy are clearly first choice, Omobamidele showed how comfortable he is with the ball last month, and Collins can also cover RB if it's needed. Plus he's got a size advantage and more comfortable with the ball at his feet. Can't see him losing out in the air and would more of threat at set pieces.

People now having a go at his speech impediment. Lord save us 

Mr Brick wrote: J89 wrote: Greenie50 wrote: t_rAndy wrote: I dont think be should be in ahead of those, my point was: its easy for people to look past the level the player is playing out while clamouring for one player but then use the same argument of level the player is playing at while clamouring for a player who missed out to someone playing at a lower level or not getting their game.  Thought Clark was poor in March. When the squad was announce for last months games, to be frank I said Omobamidele shouldn't be anywhere near it over Clark or Lenihan, but he proved me wrong. Omobamidele's displays vs Portugal & Serbia were a mile ahead of Clark. Though Kenny did say yesterday Clark was hoping to be available for the November games, so maybe he's actually carrying an injury. Strikes me more as a basic answer rather than possibly giving the truth of why Clark wasn't selected. Backs to the wall defending deep he's grand, but when the RCB and LCB are asked to push forward and join in with attacking play he's just not good enough. He was also poor back in March, especially his defending against Serbia. Egan and Duffy are clearly first choice, Omobamidele showed how comfortable he is with the ball last month, and Collins can also cover RB if it's needed. Plus he's got a size advantage and more comfortable with the ball at his feet. Can't see him losing out in the air and would more of threat at set pieces. I agree Egan/Duffy/Omo are first choice. The latter's talent is obvious but neither Duffy nor Egan are better on the ball than Clark. The turnaround in Duffy's form is amazing - but it's a stretch to believe he's now miraculously a Kenny play-out CB. Egan is solid but there was little interest to keep him in the EPL. Collins hasn't played a match this season (or an EPL game) - so is he better for cover than an experienced EPL defender? Also, can you provide a link for Kenny's comment (re injury) on Clark please.

No one said he's miraculously become a Kenny play out players, but he's playing in a team week in week out that play how Kenny wants his defenders to play with the ball. He's also playing central where I'm talking about the positions either side of him.

If Clark was better on the ball he'd clearly be first choice and starting at LCB but he's not. And I wouldn't be reading much into Egan not getting a move back to the EPL. Has three years left on his contract and Sheffield United don't need to sell. Would take a pretty penny to make Sheffield United sell one of their better players. Especially with Jack O'Connell suffering a set back and now out over 12 months.

No I'd rather see Collins get the game time against Qatar or come on and make an impact like Omobamidele did rather than Clark being in to make up the numbers. Same way I'd rather Jack Taylor in than Arter because we've enough cover with the others to cover both games and could give Taylor minutes against Qatar.

Mr Brick wrote: J89 wrote: Mr Brick wrote: J89 wrote: Greenie50 wrote: t_rAndy wrote: I dont think be should be in ahead of those, my point was: its easy for people to look past the level the player is playing out while clamouring for one player but then use the same argument of level the player is playing at while clamouring for a player who missed out to someone playing at a lower level or not getting their game.  Thought Clark was poor in March. When the squad was announce for last months games, to be frank I said Omobamidele shouldn't be anywhere near it over Clark or Lenihan, but he proved me wrong. Omobamidele's displays vs Portugal & Serbia were a mile ahead of Clark. Though Kenny did say yesterday Clark was hoping to be available for the November games, so maybe he's actually carrying an injury. Strikes me more as a basic answer rather than possibly giving the truth of why Clark wasn't selected. Backs to the wall defending deep he's grand, but when the RCB and LCB are asked to push forward and join in with attacking play he's just not good enough. He was also poor back in March, especially his defending against Serbia. Egan and Duffy are clearly first choice, Omobamidele showed how comfortable he is with the ball last month, and Collins can also cover RB if it's needed. Plus he's got a size advantage and more comfortable with the ball at his feet. Can't see him losing out in the air and would more of threat at set pieces. I agree Egan/Duffy/Omo are first choice. The latter's talent is obvious but neither Duffy nor Egan are better on the ball than Clark. The turnaround in Duffy's form is amazing - but it's a stretch to believe he's now miraculously a Kenny play-out CB. Egan is solid but there was little interest to keep him in the EPL. Collins hasn't played a match this season (or an EPL game) - so is he better for cover than an experienced EPL defender? Also, can you provide a link for Kenny's comment (re injury) on Clark please.  No one said he's miraculously become a Kenny play out players, but he's playing in a team week in week out that play how Kenny wants his defenders to play with the ball. He's also playing central where I'm talking about the positions either side of him. If Clark was better on the ball he'd clearly be first choice and starting at LCB but he's not. And I wouldn't be reading much into Egan not getting a move back to the EPL. Has three years left on his contract and Sheffield United don't need to sell. Would take a pretty penny to make Sheffield United sell one of their better players. Especially with Jack O'Connell suffering a set back and now out over 12 months. No I'd rather see Collins get the game time against Qatar or come on and make an impact like Omobamidele did rather than Clark being in to make up the numbers. Same way I'd rather Jack Taylor in than Arter because we've enough cover with the others to cover both games and could give Taylor minutes against Qatar. Sterile cut-and-paste reply.

Insightful response, would read again