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Originally posted by daithi daithi wrote:

If it was not this situation I guarantee you the bollox (bolloxes) involved would have found some other situation that did not suit them to have a pop at the new management team,

Maybe, but don't give them low hanging fruit. I suspect the performance on the back of it didn't help either.
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Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

I obviously did not see the video. That does not negate my point that it was utterly absurd.

Incredible statement.
I have no first-hand experience of a thing, only hearsay and whispers but I have a solid opinion on said mostly unknown thing.

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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

I obviously did not see the video. That does not negate my point that it was utterly absurd.

Incredible statement.
I have no first-hand experience of a thing, only hearsay and whispers but I have a solid opinion on said mostly unknown thing.

 
It's more than hearsay when it has led to controversy and subsequent resignations.
 
I personally have no issue with the video as such but it's clearly been a PR disaster.
 
 
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Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

You sir are talking outside both sides of your hole. 
 
So if we did not see the video we can't comment on it being a joke? Is that your actual logic?
 
Are you defending this video? It's an absolute sh1tshow!!!!


Well I didnt see the video but I do know that there was an investigation and duffer who lived in england for years had no issue with it and contributed towards it and Seamus coleman and Duffy had no issues both who live in the UK and all the reports are the players had no issue with it.  Alan Kelly did have an issue but I would speculate he has other motives but I will admit that is just speculation.   So there is no credible evidence it was anti English or a sh*t show.  
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Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

I obviously did not see the video. That does not negate my point that it was utterly absurd.

Incredible statement.
I have no first-hand experience of a thing, only hearsay and whispers but I have a solid opinion on said mostly unknown thing.

 
It's more than hearsay when it has led to controversy and subsequent resignations.
 
I personally have no issue with the video as such but it's clearly been a PR disaster.
 
 

Duffer has resigned for the exact opposite reason because clowns thought it was something that needed investigating and announced that to the world.  You cant blame the video for duffer resigning and Kelly should have been gone to start with.  
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

You sir are talking outside both sides of your hole. 
LOL I shall be robbing this for when the pubs eventually open back up LOL
Just because it's tradition does not make it right
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Originally posted by daithi daithi wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

You sir are talking outside both sides of your hole. 
LOL I shall be robbing this for when the pubs eventually open back up LOL


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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

You sir are talking outside both sides of your hole. 
 
So if we did not see the video we can't comment on it being a joke? Is that your actual logic?
 
Are you defending this video? It's an absolute sh1tshow!!!!


Well I didnt see the video but I do know that there was an investigation and duffer who lived in england for years had no issue with it and contributed towards it and Seamus coleman and Duffy had no issues both who live in the UK and all the reports are the players had no issue with it.  Alan Kelly did have an issue but I would speculate he has other motives but I will admit that is just speculation.   So there is no credible evidence it was anti English or a sh*t show.  
 
I see where you are coming from but the fallout has been a sh1tshow, it's a cringe way of attempting to motivate players. I accept that there have clearly been anti Kenny guys in camp who have used this as a means to attack Kenny. This does not bode well. But not having his own guys on the coaching team from day 1 has been one of SK (many) mistakes and is again poor management.
 
Aside from the undeniable PR disaster, it's all just so amateur. Had the SK reign have gone better this would be less of an issue, but it's just been one thing after another.
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One of the biggest issue with this situation is the timing.
There's no games on so nothing else to even discuss.
Duff leaving now, 2 months after the event has not helped and only served to dig it all up again.  

Better had he walked in November
Better again if he had carried on.

If we go to Belgrade and win the match, this is all immediately forgotten.
More likely we won't and this could be further dragged out as a contributing factor for our continued struggle for results.

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That's your opinion that it is cringe but with all due respect your opinion of the video is irrelevant as is mine.  The players had no issue due to reports.  Kelly was the only mick loyalist everyone else was brought in by Kenny.  Kelly is now gone so thats progress.   The only other person rumoured to have an issue is a former journalist who wont be around the national team too much   

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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

You sir are talking outside both sides of your hole. 
 
So if we did not see the video we can't comment on it being a joke? Is that your actual logic?
 
Are you defending this video? It's an absolute sh1tshow!!!!


Well I didnt see the video but I do know that there was an investigation and duffer who lived in england for years had no issue with it and contributed towards it and Seamus coleman and Duffy had no issues both who live in the UK and all the reports are the players had no issue with it.  Alan Kelly did have an issue but I would speculate he has other motives but I will admit that is just speculation.   So there is no credible evidence it was anti English or a sh*t show.  

Daryl Horgan also confirmed he had no issue with the video.

4:30 onwards. 


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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by avfc avfc wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

You sir are talking outside both sides of your hole. 
 
So if we did not see the video we can't comment on it being a joke? Is that your actual logic?
 
Are you defending this video? It's an absolute sh1tshow!!!!


Well I didnt see the video but I do know that there was an investigation and duffer who lived in england for years had no issue with it and contributed towards it and Seamus coleman and Duffy had no issues both who live in the UK and all the reports are the players had no issue with it.  Alan Kelly did have an issue but I would speculate he has other motives but I will admit that is just speculation.   So there is no credible evidence it was anti English or a sh*t show.  

Daryl Horgan also confirmed he had no issue with the video.

4:30 onwards. 


No political connotations.


 
The players who 'have not had a problem' (is anyone talking it up?) are mainly Irish born...........
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Every time this video gets mentioned I still can't help but think of Father Ted's slideshow about the Chinese. 
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Every time this video gets mentioned I still can't help but think of Father Ted's slideshow about the Chinese. 
 
And the games under SK remind me of the over 75 5-aside games with the exception that the over 75s scored..........wait a minute................get SK some fake hands!!!!
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Every time this video gets mentioned I still can't help but think of Father Ted's slideshow about the Chinese. 

Haha - yes!

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And your posts sound like they are from Dougal Maguire 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

And your posts sound like they are from Dougal Maguire 
 
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I think the brick has a twin here Wink
Just because it's tradition does not make it right
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