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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

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#THFC: Gazzaniga, Walker-Peters, Foyth, Alderweireld, Rose, Dier (C), Sissoko, Lo Celso, Eriksen, Sessegnon, Lucas. 

On the bench. 

Yep, 3 youngsters (KWP, JF and RS), some squad players and one recognised striker (Lucas) who's really only 3rd choice, and all for a dead rubber.

In those circumstances, we now know where TP comes in the pecking order i.e. 5th choice striker.

Which for a 17 y.o. at a club like Spurs, who already have 3 or 4 truly excellent strikers, is actually a tribute to the lad.

Those who were predicting league starts for him soon were way over the top.

5th choice striker? Who are the 4 ahead of him?

Kane and Son are both first team players, moura and Erikson would be Second choice. Surely Parrott is around 3rd choice now?

Kane, Son, Moura (35 caps for Brazil) and Dele (goalscoring attacking midfielder).

So not a striker then. Wink

Oh ffs!

If Spurs are stuck for strikers, or need to bolster their attack in an important game, which of the two do you think Mourinho will turm to to fill the gap, Dele or Troy?

There are people on here who are really getting ahead of themselves over TP. Maybe they should try to think of it another way, like what if he were eg English?

Rhian Brewster is an outstanding striking prospect at Liverpool, has got into the England U-21 team and is two years older than Troy, yet you don't get England fans demanding that Klopp pick him.

Assuming he's the real deal, TP's time will come. But it is silly to imagine that that time is now.


Stop being bitter about one of not only our brightest but the Premier League's brightest prospects.

The North have absolutely feck all coming through and we are littered with talented players playing regular first team football. He will come good in time
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Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

No panic anyway. He’s not 18 until next year. Play out the season for the Tottenham underage teams and get a loan move for next season. He hasn’t a notion of breaking into the spurs first team with Mourinho at the helm. If he goes away on loan and starts banging goals in then he may catch Mourinho's attention. Though even that may not be enough unless Kane moves on. Who cares about Tottenham anyway he just needs to play regularly somewhere. 
No offence, but you're another one who's ignoring another salient point (in addition to his youth, that is).

Come January, TP will have 18 months left on his contract, meaning that come the end of this season, he'll be "in play" i.e. his Agent can start talking to other teams about a prospective transfer.

So on the basis that it's enough that he might be the next Robbie Keane, never mind the next Harry Kane, Levy will be desperate to tie him down before TP does anything else.

I suspect that he has told Mourinho to keep the lad sweet (praise, squad involvement etc), whilst also keeping him close.

Meaning that unless/until he extends his contract, that will mitigate against a loan deal, since Levy won't want him playing and scoring elsewhere, for that would only put him in the shop window, as well as possibly turning the lad's head.
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Originally posted by howieb howieb wrote:

What did Mourinho gain by bringing on wanyama and Spurs 3 - 1 down with 9 mins to go.. would of been far more beneficial to give Troy his champions league debut in front of 70,000 against some world class players . These young players need minutes in these type of games to help them develop and to get more confidence . History tells us Troy won't get many chances under Mourinho. 

Three reasons.

First, Wanyama is up for sale, so Mourinho's boss Levy will want the player in the shop window with January coming up;

Second, he's Jose Mourinho* - far more concerned with consolidating a 2 goal defeat than chasing a late consolation, which that could just as easily see Bayern making it 4-1 or 5-1 instead.

Third, Spurs got humped 7-2 at WHL a few weeks back. Nobody but nobody around the club wanted anything like that to happen again.

* - I take it you have heard of Jose Mourinho before and are familiar with his work? Wink


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He's absolutely raging because the North haven't even got one player in their underage set-up that would be worth our while capping at the moment.

How many of the Norths starting eleven would trouble our starting eleven
Genuine Question, think it shows how much both teams are struggling

What on earth has any of that got to do with Troy Parrott playing - or not playing - for Spurs? Confused
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Plus you could argue that Kane and Son are not 1st and 2nd choice. They are both 1st as the will both start in the first 11. 

Whether they're 1st and 2nd, or Joint 1st, they're still two players ahead of TP. Add in Moura and Dele, and that makes TP 5th choice for a start up front in all but the least important games.
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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Plus you could argue that Kane and Son are not 1st and 2nd choice. They are both 1st as the will both start in the first 11. 

Whether they're 1st and 2nd, or Joint 1st, they're still two players ahead of TP. Add in Moura and Dele, and that makes TP 5th choice for a start up front in all but the least important games.

On paper Parrot is only out and out striker apart from Kane but in reality, Son and Moura pushed up top if needed as has Alli. Lamela probably be played up top ahead of Parrot even in a big game.
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Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

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Oh ffs!

If Spurs are stuck for strikers, or need to bolster their attack in an important game, which of the two do you think Mourinho will turm to to fill the gap, Dele or Troy?

There are people on here who are really getting ahead of themselves over TP. Maybe they should try to think of it another way, like what if he were eg English?

Rhian Brewster is an outstanding striking prospect at Liverpool, has got into the England U-21 team and is two years older than Troy, yet you don't get England fans demanding that Klopp pick him.

Assuming he's the real deal, TP's time will come. But it is silly to imagine that that time is now.


Stop being bitter about one of not only our brightest but the Premier League's brightest prospects.
What is being "bitter" for suggesting that it's way too early for a 17 y.o. to be featuring in important PL or CL games for a Spurs team already brimming with world class striking talent?

Or look at it another way. When Harry Kane was Troy's age, he got his first loan - to Leyton Feckin  Orient in the 3rd tier. And that was at a time when Spurs' strikers were nowhere near so good as today (Pavyluchenko was their second leading scorer, after midfielder Van der Vaart ffs!)

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The North have absolutely feck all coming through and we are littered with talented players playing regular first team football. He will come good in time
I hope that makes you feel better.

FYI, we NI fans are just fine and dandy with our lot, thank you very much. Wink
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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

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Oh ffs!

If Spurs are stuck for strikers, or need to bolster their attack in an important game, which of the two do you think Mourinho will turm to to fill the gap, Dele or Troy?

There are people on here who are really getting ahead of themselves over TP. Maybe they should try to think of it another way, like what if he were eg English?

Rhian Brewster is an outstanding striking prospect at Liverpool, has got into the England U-21 team and is two years older than Troy, yet you don't get England fans demanding that Klopp pick him.

Assuming he's the real deal, TP's time will come. But it is silly to imagine that that time is now.


Stop being bitter about one of not only our brightest but the Premier League's brightest prospects.
What is being "bitter" for suggesting that it's way too early for a 17 y.o. to be featuring in important PL or CL games for a Spurs team already brimming with world class striking talent?

Or look at it another way. When Harry Kane was Troy's age, he got his first loan - to Leyton Feckin  Orient in the 3rd tier. And that was at a time when Spurs' strikers were nowhere near so good as today (Pavyluchenko was their second leading scorer, after midfielder Van der Vaart ffs!)

Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:


The North have absolutely feck all coming through and we are littered with talented players playing regular first team football. He will come good in time
I hope that makes you feel better.

FYI, we NI fans are just fine and dandy with our lot, thank you very much. Wink




I think you are a good team that punches way above your weight but I don't see much coming through and MON will be a massive loss. I don't hold any grudges with the North and cringe when you're referred to as a pub team. Also, the anthem booing last year was nothing short of a major embarrassment for me at the Aviva. It would be amazing for us to draw in the NL final, let's hope it happens
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Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

#THFC: Gazzaniga, Walker-Peters, Foyth, Alderweireld, Rose, Dier (C), Sissoko, Lo Celso, Eriksen, Sessegnon, Lucas. 

On the bench. 

Yep, 3 youngsters (KWP, JF and RS), some squad players and one recognised striker (Lucas) who's really only 3rd choice, and all for a dead rubber.

In those circumstances, we now know where TP comes in the pecking order i.e. 5th choice striker.

Which for a 17 y.o. at a club like Spurs, who already have 3 or 4 truly excellent strikers, is actually a tribute to the lad.

Those who were predicting league starts for him soon were way over the top.

5th choice striker? Who are the 4 ahead of him?

Kane and Son are both first team players, moura and Erikson would be Second choice. Surely Parrott is around 3rd choice now?

Kane, Son, Moura (35 caps for Brazil) and Dele (goalscoring attacking midfielder).

So not a striker then. Wink

Oh ffs!

If Spurs are stuck for strikers, or need to bolster their attack in an important game, which of the two do you think Mourinho will turm to to fill the gap, Dele or Troy?

There are people on here who are really getting ahead of themselves over TP. Maybe they should try to think of it another way, like what if he were eg English?

Rhian Brewster is an outstanding striking prospect at Liverpool, has got into the England U-21 team and is two years older than Troy, yet you don't get England fans demanding that Klopp pick him.

Assuming he's the real deal, TP's time will come. But it is silly to imagine that that time is now.


Stop being bitter about one of not only our brightest but the Premier League's brightest prospects.

The North have absolutely feck all coming through and we are littered with talented players playing regular first team football. He will come good in time

Territorial is making fair points on Parrott's place in the Spurs pecking order of strikers who are all seasoned and experienced pros in fairness. 
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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by howieb howieb wrote:

What did Mourinho gain by bringing on wanyama and Spurs 3 - 1 down with 9 mins to go.. would of been far more beneficial to give Troy his champions league debut in front of 70,000 against some world class players . These young players need minutes in these type of games to help them develop and to get more confidence . History tells us Troy won't get many chances under Mourinho. 

Three reasons.

First, Wanyama is up for sale, so Mourinho's boss Levy will want the player in the shop window with January coming up;

Second, he's Jose Mourinho* - far more concerned with consolidating a 2 goal defeat than chasing a late consolation, which that could just as easily see Bayern making it 4-1 or 5-1 instead.

Third, Spurs got humped 7-2 at WHL a few weeks back. Nobody but nobody around the club wanted anything like that to happen again.

* - I take it you have heard of Jose Mourinho before and are familiar with his work? Wink

Yes my point exactly when I said history tells us Troy wont get many chances under Mourinho . So yes I've heard of him . 
You think 9 + mins away to Bayern and  3 - 1 down will drive up Victor Wanayama's price .. hahaha 
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A Portuguese Manager of an English club isn't going to have an agenda to help nurture Irish talent, that is a point many struggle to grasp, except neither would a German Bundesliga manager so he wouldn't be in any more favourable position there.
Many Irish seem to have a problem with delayed gratification, we want our global superstar a striker now not in four years when he's potentially going to be and any obstruction to this reality will not be tolerated!
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Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:

A Portuguese Manager of an English club isn't going to have an agenda to help nurture Irish talent, that is a point many struggle to grasp, except neither would a German Bundesliga manager so he wouldn't be in any more favourable position there.
Many Irish seem to have a problem with delayed gratification, we want our global superstar a striker now not in four years when he's potentially going to be and any obstruction to this reality will not be tolerated!
Hard to blame them getting this desperate though when you look at our scoring record (7 goals in 10 Euro 2020 qualifiers - 3 of them v Gibraltar - tells it's own sorry tale, along with 1 goal in 4 NL games). Dead
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You think 9 + mins away to Bayern and  3 - 1 down will drive up Victor Wanayama's price .. hahaha 

I didn't say that.

What I said was that he's up for sale.

Last night was a little reminder that he's still around, no more.

Besides which, any player you bring on is liable to pick up an injury - VW is more expendable than most.
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Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:

A Portuguese Manager of an English club isn't going to have an agenda to help nurture Irish talent, that is a point many struggle to grasp
Never mind the Portugese, even an Irish manager isn't going to help nurture Irish talent by picking an Irish youngster, if he feels he has a better (non-Irish) option available.

A club manager's job is to get results for his club, end of.

I mean, when some Scottish player at Man U was in the middle of a club vs country tussle, on which side did Sir Alex Ferguson come down?
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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by howieb howieb wrote:

You think 9 + mins away to Bayern and  3 - 1 down will drive up Victor Wanayama's price .. hahaha 

I didn't say that.

What I said was that he's up for sale.

Last night was a little reminder that he's still around, no more.

Besides which, any player you bring on is liable to pick up an injury - VW is more expendable than most.

But you can’t sell an injured player.

Make your mind up! 

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I just think it would of been far more beneficial to have stuck Troy on for the last 10 rather than a player that's not going to be part of their future plans . 
I agree on the some of the points about Mourinho and that's my worry he's not going to get chance to develop under Mourinho . 
This is the man who sold kevin De Bruyne.  
He wants instant success and has no interest in developing players . He'll stay 3 years max with Spurs .
Championship move the best option for Troy Parrott 
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f**king hell! People are getting awfully excited because a kid didn't get a run out!LOL
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