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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

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No minutes vs France and just 17 off the bench vs Latvia, seemingly usurped by 20yo Tom Cannon at club level and with both Connolly and Robinson to come back from injury (both of whom can play on the LHS of a front 3), is Troy's position in the squad safe?

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Right now he looks as if the Championship is too much for him. As was the case at Millwall. Another poor loan at League 1 level Ipswich too. Really MK Dons is the only place he has ever performed with any consistency, in League 1, and that was only for about half his time there.

It looks extremely unlikely that he will ever amount to the player people hoped he would be. At the moment it looks like he would be doing very well to establish himself as a reliable option in the Championship, a league where so far, he has shown a clear inability to score goals or grab assists in. 

He is still young, but several other players have overtaken him while he has stagnated. He really needs to end the season strongly at Preston but he probably has run out of chances there and will be in and out of the team - making it harder for him to put a run of form together. 

His next loan will be interesting, I still think a championship club will take a punt on him, but I dont think he will have too many suitors. And he could end up in a situation too like at Millwall where people decided the team wasnt playing to his strengths, but he has 3 failed loans out of 4 now so he will just have to get his head down and get on with it.

 

Is there an argument and maybe I’m making excuses for Parrott that he’s the sort of player like Byrne was when younger whose attributes would be far better suited to European Leagues then the Championship. 

Championship is a tough League physical even compared to League 1 now which I’m noticing is full of young “modern” managers learning their trade playing decent football. 


As for his squad position it did slightly surprise me Kenny left him out as he has faith in Parrott. Definitely a bit of a warning shot for him too. Id prefer him in the squad to Robinson or Keane a while. Parrott does offer something that the other lads who played against France don’t have.
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I think his spot is very definitely in jeopardy now, with no guarantees he even gets the game time required at club level between now and the end of the season to re-establish his claims. In his defence, he has only turned 21 and is still U21 eligible so he still has time, but his next loan/move (I'm not sure Spurs will hang on to him much longer) seems critical.
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Troy is starting to look like a case of the Federico Machedas. Too much hype too young. I hope he can make the jump up soon.
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Don’t think he has any outstanding attributes. He needs to knuckle down and maybe a few seasons in league 1 or league 2 would be good for him. 
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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

No minutes vs France and just 17 off the bench vs Latvia, seemingly usurped by 20yo Tom Cannon at club level and with both Connolly and Robinson to come back from injury (both of whom can play on the LHS of a front 3), is Troy's position in the squad safe?

No.

Right now he looks as if the Championship is too much for him. As was the case at Millwall. Another poor loan at League 1 level Ipswich too. Really MK Dons is the only place he has ever performed with any consistency, in League 1, and that was only for about half his time there.

It looks extremely unlikely that he will ever amount to the player people hoped he would be. At the moment it looks like he would be doing very well to establish himself as a reliable option in the Championship, a league where so far, he has shown a clear inability to score goals or grab assists in. 

He is still young, but several other players have overtaken him while he has stagnated. He really needs to end the season strongly at Preston but he probably has run out of chances there and will be in and out of the team - making it harder for him to put a run of form together. 

His next loan will be interesting, I still think a championship club will take a punt on him, but I dont think he will have too many suitors. And he could end up in a situation too like at Millwall where people decided the team wasnt playing to his strengths, but he has 3 failed loans out of 4 now so he will just have to get his head down and get on with it.

 

Is there an argument and maybe I’m making excuses for Parrott that he’s the sort of player like Byrne was when younger whose attributes would be far better suited to European Leagues then the Championship. 

Championship is a tough League physical even compared to League 1 now which I’m noticing is full of young “modern” managers learning their trade playing decent football. 


As for his squad position it did slightly surprise me Kenny left him out as he has faith in Parrott. Definitely a bit of a warning shot for him too. Id prefer him in the squad to Robinson or Keane a while. Parrott does offer something that the other lads who played against France don’t have.

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Lee O'Connor and Troy Parrot were ridiculously good at around the ages of 15-18.

They are two of the biggest disappointments in terms of Irish youth prospects in recent times.

Assists on their Ireland debut vs New Zealand in 2019.

They've obviously made it as professional footballers, but not at the level I would have expect when I watched them play for United and Spurs at youth level.

Parrott can still progress if he finds the right club and matures. He just won't be the next Robbie Keane or Harry Kane, unfortunately.
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The miss in Scotland felt like it could be a defining moment for this lad. I didn't buy into his hype too much early on but there's definitely a player in there somewhere. If he can get his head down and graft hard he'll get another few chances but if his head isn't screwed on, would be worried that is the case, his career is only heading one way. 

I was very relieved he didn't make the squad for the France game - he didn't deserve to but it seemed like he was destined to be one of Kennys favourite players. Good to see him take no prisoners. 
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Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

Lee O'Connor and Troy Parrot were ridiculously good at around the ages of 15-18.

They are two of the biggest disappointments in terms of Irish youth prospects in recent times.

Assists on their Ireland debut vs New Zealand in 2019.

They've obviously made it as professional footballers, but not at the level I would have expect when I watched them play for United and Spurs at youth level.

Parrott can still progress if he finds the right club and matures. He just won't be the next Robbie Keane or Harry Kane, unfortunately.

You can add Odubeko to that list.
The media hype around some young players is extreme and it does nobody any good (apart from the people who count website clicks).
The casual fan hears talk of Parrott or whomever and then whe they see the player play, wonder what all the fuss is about.
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parrott needs a better move in the summer so hopefully he gets one. hes miles clear of someone like o'connor ability wise mind you. 
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parrott needs a better move in the summer so hopefully he gets one. hes miles clear of someone like o'connor ability wise mind you. 

A better move than Preston? Where is it that you think he can go that will be better, based off his record in the championship?

He has done poorly at 3 separate clubs. He got the benefit of the doubt with Millwall and Ipswich from many. It was the way they played, supposedly. At this point, the common denominator is him.
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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

Lee O'Connor and Troy Parrot were ridiculously good at around the ages of 15-18.

They are two of the biggest disappointments in terms of Irish youth prospects in recent times.

Assists on their Ireland debut vs New Zealand in 2019.

They've obviously made it as professional footballers, but not at the level I would have expect when I watched them play for United and Spurs at youth level.

Parrott can still progress if he finds the right club and matures. He just won't be the next Robbie Keane or Harry Kane, unfortunately.

You can add Odubeko to that list.
The media hype around some young players is extreme and it does nobody any good (apart from the people who count website clicks).
The casual fan hears talk of Parrott or whomever and then whe they see the player play, wonder what all the fuss is about.


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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

Lee O'Connor and Troy Parrot were ridiculously good at around the ages of 15-18.

They are two of the biggest disappointments in terms of Irish youth prospects in recent times.

Assists on their Ireland debut vs New Zealand in 2019.

They've obviously made it as professional footballers, but not at the level I would have expect when I watched them play for United and Spurs at youth level.

Parrott can still progress if he finds the right club and matures. He just won't be the next Robbie Keane or Harry Kane, unfortunately.

You can add Odubeko to that list.
The media hype around some young players is extreme and it does nobody any good (apart from the people who count website clicks).
The casual fan hears talk of Parrott or whomever and then whe they see the player play, wonder what all the fuss is about.


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I haven't seen much hype on above players
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Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Originally posted by Banana_RepublicFC Banana_RepublicFC wrote:

Lee O'Connor and Troy Parrot were ridiculously good at around the ages of 15-18.

They are two of the biggest disappointments in terms of Irish youth prospects in recent times.

Assists on their Ireland debut vs New Zealand in 2019.

They've obviously made it as professional footballers, but not at the level I would have expect when I watched them play for United and Spurs at youth level.

Parrott can still progress if he finds the right club and matures. He just won't be the next Robbie Keane or Harry Kane, unfortunately.


You can add Odubeko to that list.
The media hype around some young players is extreme and it does nobody any good (apart from the people who count website clicks).
The casual fan hears talk of Parrott or whomever and then whe they see the player play, wonder what all the fuss is about.



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I haven't seen much hype on above players


Yeah it's more social media hype really.
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Still think there's a solid Premier League player in there with Parrott.
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The thing that’s working against him the most is his lack of physical development. He still hasn’t filled out at all (he may never) and he’s not quick enough to get away with that. Look at the rest of the forwards we have and they all have outstanding physical attributes to make up for whatever technical deficiencies they may have. Unfortunately, Parrott doesn’t.
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Here we are, back writing off players in their early 20's. How often do guys need to be proved wrong before they'll cop on and show some patience?
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Still think there's a solid Premier League player in there with Parrott.



I wouldnt be ruling it our entirely given the experience he has gained at such a young age, but he is a long way off it right now. There's a serious argument to be made that unless things improve for him at club level fairly sharpish, then he should be partnering Cannon with the U21s when they play the Turks at home in early September. Of course that's dependent on availability of others, but if Ferguson, Idah, Obafemi and Ogbene are fit, that's 4 forward spots filled - you then have Connolly, due back shortly for Hull, Robinson, ditto for Cardiff, Keane and Hogan, leaving aside the possibility that Cannon rips it up in the interim.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Here we are, back writing off players in their early 20's. How often do guys need to be proved wrong before they'll cop on and show some patience?

Right on cue, the resident hysteric shows up.

Nobody is writing him off. A realistic assessment of his current standing, a realistic evaluation of his probable potential, virtually every single statement qualified by saying that he is still young.

Of course, why acknowledge any of that, when you can come in with an all too familiar tantrum over players not being furnished with unbridled praise at every single opportunity. Boring.
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