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Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6773 |
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If I was bringing either into the senior squad it'd be Scully for me, he has a solid 12 months at Lincoln behind him now and has been consistently good at that level. Also looks much more suited to senior football at the moment than Parrott does. But if I was to guess right now I'd say Parrott will be with the Under 21s and Scully won't be picked for the seniors either (he's overage for the under 21 squad).
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Ecumenical Matter
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 13 Nov 2017 Status: Offline Points: 215 |
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Bit of a reality check. League 1?
He’s young so plenty of time but zero progress over the last year.
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JUICEBOMB
Liam Brady Joined: 06 Oct 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2103 |
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Maybe...but he’s gonna have to produce something in this move or I’d say eyebrows maybe raised at Spurs.I always look at the way Spurs handled Harry Kane’s development as the way there gonna handle parrot.at 18 Kane was at orient and scored 5 goals in 18 apps,then he moved to championship clubs (funnily enough millwall was one) then they moved him into the first team,Spurs may have moved parrot on a little too quick (his international cap?)in his progression by sending him championship first so this move is probably were parrot really starts his football education.
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hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard
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50%lesssugar&salt
Liam Brady Joined: 02 Sep 2017 Status: Offline Points: 1292 |
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I wonder what the reaction on here would have been if he went straight to Ipswich at the start of the season. Similar to the reaction to Lee O'Connor's move to Tranmere (I know that is league two)?
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Jack Charlton Teenage Kicks, so hard to beat Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Status: Offline Points: 7703 |
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I dont care where he goes as long as he starts scoring. If he gets 1 goal he should settle down a bit. Pressure might ease.
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Nialler
Liam Brady Joined: 20 Aug 2019 Status: Offline Points: 1490 |
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I don't understand why he wouldn't go somewhere that suits his style of play. He is clearly being badly handled. I am not fussed about league one but surely you find a club in the first place that play football and not Milwall. Ipswich are a league one Milwall.
If I was his agent I would have looked at Haaland and how he went from strength to strength. A continental club that plays football is way better where he can build.
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Dalymount79
Liam Brady Joined: 17 Oct 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1544 |
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Let’s see how the next 4 months go for him.
If he finishes the season with 25+ appearances most of them starts and maybe 4/5 goals not a bad return. |
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GaretFarellysNutSack
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Haaland ffs. He's probably the most exciting player since Ronaldo. Troy doesn't seem to be doing much yet, but then most strikers don't really kick off properly till they're 23 or so, with the odd exception here and there like Rooney or Michael Owen.
I would have thought he might shine even in a crap team, he barely seemed to be trying half the time for Millwall in the games I watched.
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Roberto Baggio
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I thought all a good promising young player had to do was go out on loan and their career would automatically take off, just from reading Terri's posts on Phil Foden over the last 3 years.
Doesn't always work the same way for every player. |
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Ray Houghton Joined: 16 Aug 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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Let's just see how he gets on at Ipswich. I would think he'll play on Saturday.
He needs to make it work there i would think. If he doesn't he might need a further spell in the Tottenham u23s. If he does make it work at Ipswich, it will give him something to really build on in mens football. |
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exgrad
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 27 Mar 2019 Status: Offline Points: 274 |
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From the little i saw of him for Millwall he didn't look ready to go on loan to a championship team. He was a boy trying to play mans football. He had no idea how to deal with physical center half's, particularly from long balls, which there were plenty of. Still might work to develop him, and there is no big issue in not being ready for it at 18, but he may have been better staying at Spurs and getting minutes in the cup competitions and playing in the underage games for another season. There's plenty of examples of players breaking through at big teams without going through the loan system, Foden mentioned above, McTominay another who springs to mind, TAA at Liverpool. I'm not sure a League 1 loan is going to do any favours but he seems set on the loan route.
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Nialler
Liam Brady Joined: 20 Aug 2019 Status: Offline Points: 1490 |
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I know. My point wasn't they are the same player for god sake. Look into how he was handled by his dad. The path he took. He could have gone to big clubs early but he went to smaller clubs thtat are well coached and run and play very good football that will suit him. Troy is not a player suited to Championship and League one batter ball. It is alien football to him. he has barely had a chance created for him, they play sh*t football. No wonder he looks sh*t. Go back and watch his at 17 during the summer against top defenders. He is a far better player then. He should sack his agent immediately and get someone who knows what they are doing. Prob some Irish agent who has friends at Milwall and Ipswich. I would e shocked if that was not the case.
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EdisonCavani
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 26 Mar 2014 Status: Offline Points: 250 |
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Spurs organise the loan deals for their young players. It is only the big money loan deals where agents are involved. The likes of Man Utd trying to offload Alexis Sanchez and Chris Smalling. If Parrot wants to control his own destiny like Haaland then he would have to leave Spurs permanently. The lad has plenty of time on his side. The lack of pace is however something that would worry me. I only dipped in and out of Millwall matches to see him briefly and he did not look quick to me. It could however be down somewhat to overall fitness and what looks to me like hesitancy in his play. The times I saw him play underage for Ireland he took risks and played off the cuff. He didn’t bring any of that to the bits I saw him playing for Millwall. He has ability. He just has to get it out of himself. I’d say he has to do something at Ipswich or there is a danger Spurs will put him on the transfer market. You don’t get kept on without showing some progress even it is inconsistent from game to game.
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Territorial
Jack Charlton Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Status: Offline Points: 5817 |
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Ha ha, from the way you keep bringing it up at every opportunity, it's got to you, hasn't it? Anyhow, it is widely accepted that there is no better prescription for a young player's development than regular game time provided he's up to it. In Parrott's case, it may be that the challenge of Championship football came a bit too soon - his loan at Ipswich should tell us more. As for Foden, are you really telling me that he isn't good enough to be a nailed-down starter at a top team in a top league? Nor hasn't been for the last couple of seasons? Yeah, maybe that's it, although these words about him might suggest otherwise: “I would like to have the right words to describe what I saw,” he said almost giddily. “He’s a gift for us. He’s special.” A quotation from some guy named Guardiola. Speaking in summer 2017.
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Roberto Baggio
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My point is, if Foden had gone out on loan 2 years ago to a championship or L1 club, I'm not sure he would be a better player than what he currently is for having stayed in the City first team squad, learning off the likes of Silva and De Bruyne and being blooded gradually into top level football and picking up a sporadic 100 appearances.
Every player is different though, and if Troy Parrott had stayed at Spurs for the next two or three years i'd be pretty sure he wouldn't have 100 appearances (of any sort) Lets not derail the thread though, thats just my opinion
Edited by Roberto Baggio - 02 Feb 2021 at 3:02pm |
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kevin100
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What your saying makes sense but would Parrott have gotten 15-20 matches at Spurs? Highly unlikely. I’d actually argue Kelleher is better off staying at Liverpool next year then going on loan to a Championship team as he will find himself potentially playing 10-15 games as Liverpool’s 2nd choice. Even more as Alisson has shown the tendency to pick up niggles.
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Fruice
Liam Brady Joined: 22 Nov 2014 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 1259 |
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Ultimately comparing Foden and Parrott doesn’t work Foden is top class and has managed to get good game time at Man City amongst all their stars. Parrot got caught between a rock and hard place he played very little games last season as he was in the first team squad but not featuring and then wasn’t allowed play for the under 23,s so no Doubt this affected his progression. As for Kelleher games are key for every position especially a keeper if he wants to progress this season or next season must be his last At Liverpool if he wants to progress more. Kloop didn’t even pick him against UTD in the FA Cup. He could go the rest of the season with no game.
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Territorial
Jack Charlton Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Status: Offline Points: 5817 |
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Who said anything about a Championship loan, never mind Lge 1? My point is that Foden is easily good enough to be a regualr starter for a top team in a top league, and has been for a good couple of seasons. Nor was I even saying he HAD to go out on loan. Rather my point was and remains that having been persuaded to sign a 6 (SIX) year contract, he deprived himself of any leverage in securing a regular place in the Man City team, or failing that a loan. Which is why the totally single-minded Guardiola was able to use him, or not use him, solely as it suited him (PG), not the player. Which was never more evident than last season, when it was clear by January that City were never going to catch L'pool, nor were they going to fail to finish Top Four, so that was the perfect opportunity for Pep to promote PF to a regular starting place in the PL, to give him more experience. But instead he was made to be back-up to a 34 y.o. who was leaving at the end of the season. A sad waste of a special talent (imo), only made possible by an incompetent (or worse) Agent, and the expoitation of the player's own lifelong devotion to the club. |
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