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Whatever about whom he is pictured, surely somebody has advised him not to be pictured with these lads. Yet he's pictured with them anyway. That concerns me a little bit with regards to his ability to learn from his mistakes, particularly when he probably made plenty mistakes in his first full season of senior football. 

On the basis that we need him I'll give him a pass on this one! To be fair if the local hoods turn up on ur hols and ask u for a picture it probable wouldn't be wise to say no, particularly for ur family in Dublin!! Now if he actually went on holiday with them that's a different story!!
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Originally posted by AbuAbu AbuAbu wrote:

Originally posted by Eoink21 Eoink21 wrote:

Whatever about whom he is pictured, surely somebody has advised him not to be pictured with these lads. Yet he's pictured with them anyway. That concerns me a little bit with regards to his ability to learn from his mistakes, particularly when he probably made plenty mistakes in his first full season of senior football. 

On the basis that we need him I'll give him a pass on this one! To be fair if the local hoods turn up on ur hols and ask u for a picture it probable wouldn't be wise to say no, particularly for ur family in Dublin!! Now if he actually went on holiday with them that's a different story!!

Hasn't he been on mini breaks with them  ?  Yachts etc   
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Originally posted by AbuAbu AbuAbu wrote:

Originally posted by Eoink21 Eoink21 wrote:

Whatever about whom he is pictured, surely somebody has advised him not to be pictured with these lads. Yet he's pictured with them anyway. That concerns me a little bit with regards to his ability to learn from his mistakes, particularly when he probably made plenty mistakes in his first full season of senior football. 

On the basis that we need him I'll give him a pass on this one! To be fair if the local hoods turn up on ur hols and ask u for a picture it probable wouldn't be wise to say no, particularly for ur family in Dublin!! Now if he actually went on holiday with them that's a different story!!

He's clearly hanging out and socialising with these guys though. If he just posed on the street or beside a pitch for a selfie with one of them, it would be no big deal (he could say he hardly even knew the person in the pic).
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I see on Instagram that this gangster he was photographed with is also followed by Adam Idag, Jack Byrne, Aaron Connolly and Danny Grant. Shame. 
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Isn't the whole point about Parrott (and the company he's keeping from back home) that for most others in his situation, football offers a chance to escape the ghetto?

I remember Jimmy Nicholl expressing his gratitude for what football did in keeping him out of trouble as a youngster. Can't find the exact reference now, but this gives a flavour:

[Nicholl's] prowess with the ball at his feet as a teenager was the entire family’s ticket out of Northern Ireland at the height of the Troubles.

Before they moved lock, stock and barrel over to Manchester, Nicholl was making trips back to Rathcoole, on the northern outskirts of Belfast. Even these journeys home were hairy enough.

“On the last Saturday of every month we were allowed to go home,” he recalls. “I was just 16, playing every Saturday morning, watching the first team in the afternoon if they were at home. After the game I’d get a train to Liverpool to get the overnight boat to Belfast, then bus to Rathcoole.

“Then, on Monday night, I would get the boat back overnight. And I was doing this from 15! That is why I am short with kids now, they don’t know how good they have it! I was seeing Man United and Liverpool fans fighting on the boat going over, people getting thrown overboard!”

All this was before he even made it to Belfast, where Manchester United were alert to the worsening situation. “If football’s done nothing else for me, it got my family out of Northern Ireland,” says Nicholl. “And that’s nothing to do with where I was brought up – I loved Rathcoole, still do. I still go back there now but it was getting a bit naughty in 1971.”

On one of those trips home to Rathcoole, Tommy Docherty, the United manager, phoned a neighbour (the Nicholls did not have a phone) with a message: plane tickets were booked for Jimmy and his family to head to Manchester the following day. “We flew to Manchester and they told us they were taking us straight to this house in Sale, Cheshire, with three bedrooms and a garage. It was in ‘a cul de sac’! What’s a cul de sac?!”

The Nicholls arrived to find the groundsman from Old Trafford cutting the lawn while a woman from the club office was standing with a book of wallpaper samples. This agreeable scene only made the young Nicholl more determined to make the breakthrough at the club.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/interview-jimmy-nicholl-hungry-return-management-1467659

That last line is especially telling imo.
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A very heart-warming piece from Up Yours Nicholl. 
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Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

Originally posted by AbuAbu AbuAbu wrote:

Originally posted by Eoink21 Eoink21 wrote:

Whatever about whom he is pictured, surely somebody has advised him not to be pictured with these lads. Yet he's pictured with them anyway. That concerns me a little bit with regards to his ability to learn from his mistakes, particularly when he probably made plenty mistakes in his first full season of senior football. 

On the basis that we need him I'll give him a pass on this one! To be fair if the local hoods turn up on ur hols and ask u for a picture it probable wouldn't be wise to say no, particularly for ur family in Dublin!! Now if he actually went on holiday with them that's a different story!!

He's clearly hanging out and socialising with these guys though. If he just posed on the street or beside a pitch for a selfie with one of them, it would be no big deal (he could say he hardly even knew the person in the pic).
 


Yes reading the situation he knows these lads a while back. One of the lads he’s photographed with has been retweeting Troy Parrott content since 2017/2018 so they are clearly childhood mates. They come from the same area and are high profile too hence likely to cross paths.  

It is what it is I don’t lend too much weight to it and I don’t get the shock every now and then when an updated pic of them together emerges by it Little or young Byrne. 

Most people were confused by Mourinhos damning “needs help on and off the field” comments a few years ago it was very clear what he was talking about. Sponsorship issues may well arise for Parrott down the line. 

As for Jack Byrne same social circle. However we haven’t been getting sob stories about how poor Troy is missing home and his mammy like we did with Byrne. That narrative nearly made me sick the last few years maybe he did suffer from home sickness as a kid sure but the rest of it was nauseating.

 Parrott seems far more likeable to me in interviews and comes across as hard working most coaches speak well of him too and reading between the lines it maps. 




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As for Jack Byrne same social circle. However we haven’t been getting sob stories about how poor Troy is missing home and his mammy like we did with Byrne. That narrative nearly made me sick the last few years maybe he did suffer from home sickness as a kid sure but the rest of it was nauseating.

 
WTF? Are you actually giving out someone who lost their father at 11, then moving to England as a teenager coming out saying they are very close to their mother and wanting to be close to them?
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Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:


As for Jack Byrne same social circle. However we haven’t been getting sob stories about how poor Troy is missing home and his mammy like we did with Byrne. That narrative nearly made me sick the last few years maybe he did suffer from home sickness as a kid sure but the rest of it was nauseating.

 
WTF? Are you actually giving out someone who lost their father at 11, then moving to England as a teenager coming out saying they are very close to their mother and wanting to be close to them?

Spot on. I don't know how anyone could find Byrne's genuine comments about his mother from that interview as nauseating. 
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Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:


As for Jack Byrne same social circle. However we haven’t been getting sob stories about how poor Troy is missing home and his mammy like we did with Byrne. That narrative nearly made me sick the last few years maybe he did suffer from home sickness as a kid sure but the rest of it was nauseating.

 
WTF? Are you actually giving out someone who lost their father at 11, then moving to England as a teenager coming out saying they are very close to their mother and wanting to be close to them?

Spot on. I don't know how anyone could find Byrne's genuine comments about his mother from that interview as nauseating. 

Yeah, weird comment. Jack Byrne has always come across as a very thoughtful character in interviews I've seen. Are we going to bash people for being open about their feelings now? 

And like Byrne (which could be said for a good few players), one's past actions don't define their future. People can change believe it or not. 
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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:


As for Jack Byrne same social circle. However we haven’t been getting sob stories about how poor Troy is missing home and his mammy like we did with Byrne. That narrative nearly made me sick the last few years maybe he did suffer from home sickness as a kid sure but the rest of it was nauseating.

 
WTF? Are you actually giving out someone who lost their father at 11, then moving to England as a teenager coming out saying they are very close to their mother and wanting to be close to them?

Spot on. I don't know how anyone could find Byrne's genuine comments about his mother from that interview as nauseating. 

Yeah, weird comment. Jack Byrne has always come across as a very thoughtful character in interviews I've seen. Are we going to bash people for being open about their feelings now? 

And like Byrne (which could be said for a good few players), one's past actions don't define their future. People can change believe it or not. 
 

When did I ever mention his father? You brought that into this not me. I have no issue with him sharing his feelings of course I don’t I was talking about the media coverage/narrative of it. He quite literally hangs around with the exact same social circle as Parrott btw the guys that are generating controversy on here? I’m geussing that’s clear.



Interesting going by the responses here one is wasting his potential while the other it’s a different narrative I can imagine what would be said about Parrott if he’s back playing in the LOI at 23/24. 
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Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:


As for Jack Byrne same social circle. However we haven’t been getting sob stories about how poor Troy is missing home and his mammy like we did with Byrne. That narrative nearly made me sick the last few years maybe he did suffer from home sickness as a kid sure but the rest of it was nauseating.

 
WTF? Are you actually giving out someone who lost their father at 11, then moving to England as a teenager coming out saying they are very close to their mother and wanting to be close to them?

Spot on. I don't know how anyone could find Byrne's genuine comments about his mother from that interview as nauseating. 

Yeah, weird comment. Jack Byrne has always come across as a very thoughtful character in interviews I've seen. Are we going to bash people for being open about their feelings now? 

And like Byrne (which could be said for a good few players), one's past actions don't define their future. People can change believe it or not. 
 

When did I ever mention his father? You brought that into this not me. I have no issue with him sharing his feelings of course I don’t I was talking about the media coverage/narrative of it. He quite literally hangs around with the exact same social circle as Parrott btw the guys that are generating controversy on here? I’m geussing that’s clear.

Interesting going by the responses here one is wasting his potential while the other it’s a different narrative I can imagine what would be said about Parrott if he’s back playing in the LOI at 23/24. 

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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by sausy sausy wrote:

Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:


As for Jack Byrne same social circle. However we haven’t been getting sob stories about how poor Troy is missing home and his mammy like we did with Byrne. That narrative nearly made me sick the last few years maybe he did suffer from home sickness as a kid sure but the rest of it was nauseating.

 
WTF? Are you actually giving out someone who lost their father at 11, then moving to England as a teenager coming out saying they are very close to their mother and wanting to be close to them?

Spot on. I don't know how anyone could find Byrne's genuine comments about his mother from that interview as nauseating. 

Yeah, weird comment. Jack Byrne has always come across as a very thoughtful character in interviews I've seen. Are we going to bash people for being open about their feelings now? 

And like Byrne (which could be said for a good few players), one's past actions don't define their future. People can change believe it or not. 
 

When did I ever mention his father? You brought that into this not me. I have no issue with him sharing his feelings of course I don’t I was talking about the media coverage/narrative of it. He quite literally hangs around with the exact same social circle as Parrott btw the guys that are generating controversy on here? I’m geussing that’s clear.

Interesting going by the responses here one is wasting his potential while the other it’s a different narrative I can imagine what would be said about Parrott if he’s back playing in the LOI at 23/24. 

Like who?

 

Little and Lee Byrne? He has been snapped with them the same way Parrott has been? 
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Parrott going out on loan again, short term deal with a championship club on the cards. He should be looking at broadening his horizons and going abroad imho. A good dutch or belgian team would suit best.
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Parrott going out on loan again, short term deal with a championship club on the cards. He should be looking at broadening his horizons and going abroad imho. A good dutch or belgian team would suit best.


It's one thing saying he should go somewhere (and I do agree it would be good to see our players broaden their horizons) but that relies on there being interest from teams in those countries.
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