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Fully agree with dunne. Getting teenagers into the squad gives it a boost, especially if exciting players. Been years since we have really did that. Most of our players have been into their 20’s by the time they get a first start.

That would be a good stat to see. Age of debut for all Irish players in the last 10 years. Any YBIG nerd want to have a go?

And sure Dunne found it hard to keep the weight off when he was an active player 


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Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

He was always going to be a Razor Ruddock type retiree. 

"Let me tell you something about Richard Dunne, he's got the heart of a lion and the arse of a rhinoceros"

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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Fully agree with dunne. Getting teenagers into the squad gives it a boost, especially if exciting players. Been years since we have really did that. Most of our players have been into their 20’s by the time they get a first start.

That would be a good stat to see. Age of debut for all Irish players in the last 10 years. Any YBIG nerd want to have a go?

And sure Dunne found it hard to keep the weight off when he was an active player 
At international or club level?
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Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Fully agree with dunne. Getting teenagers into the squad gives it a boost, especially if exciting players. Been years since we have really did that. Most of our players have been into their 20’s by the time they get a first start.

That would be a good stat to see. Age of debut for all Irish players in the last 10 years. Any YBIG nerd want to have a go?

And sure Dunne found it hard to keep the weight off when he was an active player 
At international or club level?

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A precocious, 17-year old, goalscoring Dubliner getting capped by Mick McCarthy?

Would never happen.
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I remember looking it up before,

Rice was out last 19 year old, before him it was McCarthy in 2010, with a handful like Stokes, Long and Cunningham before that.

Our last 18 year old McGeady in 2004 and before him it was Damien Duff in 1998.

Robbie Keane was our last 17 year old.


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Originally posted by valo88 valo88 wrote:

I remember looking it up before,

Rice was out last 19 year old, before him it was McCarthy in 2010, with a handful like Stokes, Long and Cunningham before that.

Our last 18 year old McGeady in 2004 and before him it was Damien Duff in 1998.

Robbie Keane was our last 17 year old.
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Originally posted by DalyerRegular DalyerRegular wrote:

Originally posted by valo88 valo88 wrote:

I remember looking it up before,

Rice was out last 19 year old, before him it was McCarthy in 2010, with a handful like Stokes, Long and Cunningham before that.

Our last 18 year old McGeady in 2004 and before him it was Damien Duff in 1998.

Robbie Keane was our last 17 year old.
Obafemi was 18


Thumbs Up Forgot about him, I took it from my original post before he'd made his debut.

Still fairly mad hes only the 3rd 18 year old in 20 years!
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I really hope he makes it and all that, but it was a meaningless game. Let’s not kid ourselves on!
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Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

He was always going to be a Razor Ruddock type retiree. 


Could be worse ....could be an Andy Reid type
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Originally posted by DalyerRegular DalyerRegular wrote:

Originally posted by valo88 valo88 wrote:

I remember looking it up before,

Rice was out last 19 year old, before him it was McCarthy in 2010, with a handful like Stokes, Long and Cunningham before that.

Our last 18 year old McGeady in 2004 and before him it was Damien Duff in 1998.

Robbie Keane was our last 17 year old.
Obafemi was 18

I would think given our so called limited capabilities we should be giving young lads with a sight of talent a chance. 
This is down to the last 3 or 4 managers approach of not calling up players unless they are playing for the clubs in at least championship level or above (for a majority of the last 10-20 years). I think there are flaws to that concept.

Kenny is saying all the right things and looking forward to seeing what happens when he steps up


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Originally posted by eddiebro eddiebro wrote:

Good comments by Richie Dunne https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/richard-dunne-wants-tottenham-wonderkid-18652473

Dunne is well placed to provide an opinion on this matter. If I recall correctly, McCarthy called Dunne up as a 17-year old for the away qualifier against Romania in 1997. Although it was another few years before Dunne made his debut, it showed that McCarthy was willing to get talented young players involved at an early age. That was further evidenced the following year when Robbie and Duff made their debuts as teenagers.
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Mick has shown time and time again at international and club level that if you're good enough, you're old enough.

On that basis, I think Mick's next squad will include:

- Parrott (if as expected he kicks on and is at least on the bench for a few games at Spurs), and 

- Aaron Connolly, whose performances in Toulon were outstanding and clearly senior level - well able to take on the new Barca right back - reminiscent of Duff in Malaysia over 20 years ago.  Connolly should get a good loan now - maybe to Germany, seems to be a route for the higher level PL2 players (Ampadu, Lookman, Nelson, etc).  Too good to be playing PL2 level now. Wouldn't be surprised to see him come on for against the Swiss for the final 15 min. They could be surprised by his direct, running style - while he has it, at least until he has it coached out of him.

If so, will pul the rug out from Kenny a little bit who has built a nice little U21 squad for the Euro qualifiers.
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Originally posted by tetsujin1979 tetsujin1979 wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Fully agree with dunne. Getting teenagers into the squad gives it a boost, especially if exciting players. Been years since we have really did that. Most of our players have been into their 20’s by the time they get a first start.

That would be a good stat to see. Age of debut for all Irish players in the last 10 years. Any YBIG nerd want to have a go?

And sure Dunne found it hard to keep the weight off when he was an active player 
At international or club level?

All debuts in the last 10 years, i.e. since 23rd July 2009
Player                  Date of Birth          Debut Age  Home                 Score  Away                                      
Darren O'Dea               4 Feb 1987     8 Sep 2009  22  Republic of Ireland   1-0   South Africa                              
James McCarthy            12 Nov 1990     2 Mar 2010  19  Republic of Ireland   0-2   Brazil                                    
Paul Green                10 Apr 1983    25 May 2010  27  Republic of Ireland   2-1   Paraguay                                  
Keith Fahey               15 Jan 1983    25 May 2010  27  Republic of Ireland   2-1   Paraguay                                  
Cillian Sheridan          23 Feb 1989    25 May 2010  21  Republic of Ireland   2-1   Paraguay                                  
Greg Cunningham           31 Jan 1991    28 May 2010  19  Republic of Ireland   3-0   Algeria                                   
Keith Treacy              13 Sep 1988    11 Aug 2010  21  Republic of Ireland   0-1   Argentina                                 
Jonathan Walters          20 Sep 1983    17 Nov 2010  27  Republic of Ireland   1-2   Norway                                    
Ciaran Clarke             26 Sep 1989    11 Feb 2011  21  Republic of Ireland   3-0   Wales                                     
Marc Wilson               17 Aug 1987    11 Feb 2011  23  Republic of Ireland   3-0   Wales                                     
Seamus Coleman            11 Oct 1988    11 Feb 2011  22  Republic of Ireland   3-0   Wales                                     
David Forde               20 Dec 1979    24 May 2011  31  Republic of Ireland   5-0   Northern Ireland                          
Simon Cox                 28 Apr 1987    24 May 2011  24  Republic of Ireland   5-0   Northern Ireland                          
Stephen Ward              20 Aug 1985    24 May 2011  25  Republic of Ireland   5-0   Northern Ireland                          
James McClean             22 Apr 1989    29 Feb 2012  22  Republic of Ireland   1-1   Czech Republic                            
Darren Randolph           12 May 1987    11 Sep 2012  25  Republic of Ireland   4-1   Oman                                      
Robbie Brady              14 Jan 1992    11 Sep 2012  20  Republic of Ireland   4-1   Oman                                      
David Meyler              29 May 1989    11 Sep 2012  23  Republic of Ireland   4-1   Oman                                      
Alex Pearce                9 Nov 1988    11 Sep 2012  23  Republic of Ireland   4-1   Oman                                      
Conor Sammon              13 Apr 1987     6 Feb 2013  25  Republic of Ireland   2-0   Poland                                    
Jeff Hendrick             31 Jan 1992     6 Feb 2013  21  Republic of Ireland   2-0   Poland                                    
Richard Keogh             11 Aug 1986     6 Feb 2013  26  Republic of Ireland   2-0   Poland                                    
Stephen Quinn              4 Apr 1986     2 Jun 2013  27  Republic of Ireland   4-0   Georgia                                   
Paddy Madden               4 Mar 1990    14 Aug 2013  23  Wales                 0-0   Republic of Ireland                       
Anthony Pilkington         6 Jun 1988     6 Sep 2013  25  Republic of Ireland   1-2   Sweden                                    
Robert Elliot             30 Apr 1986    25 May 2014  28  Republic of Ireland   1-2   Turkey                                    
Shane Duffy                1 Jan 1992     7 Jun 2014  22  Costa Rica            1-1   Republic of Ireland                       
Cyrus Christie            30 Sep 1992    18 Nov 2014  22  Republic of Ireland   4-1   USA                                       
David McGoldrick          29 Nov 1987    18 Nov 2014  26  Republic of Ireland   4-1   USA                                       
Harry Arter               28 Dec 1989     7 Jun 2015  25  Republic of Ireland   0-0   England                                   
Alan Judge                11 Nov 1988    25 Mar 2016  27  Republic of Ireland   1-0   Switzerland                               
Eunan O'Kane              10 Jul 1990    25 Mar 2016  25  Republic of Ireland   1-0   Switzerland                               
Jonathan Hayes             9 Jul 1987    25 Mar 2016  28  Republic of Ireland   1-0   Switzerland                               
Callum O'Dowda            23 Apr 1995    31 May 2016  21  Republic of Ireland   1-2   Belarus                                   
Daryl Horgan              10 Aug 1992    28 Mar 2017  24  Republic of Ireland   0-1   Iceland                                   
Andy Boyle                 7 Mar 1991    28 Mar 2017  26  Republic of Ireland   0-1   Iceland                                   
John Egan                 20 Oct 1992    28 Mar 2017  24  Republic of Ireland   0-1   Iceland                                   
Conor Hourihane            2 Feb 1991    28 Mar 2017  26  Republic of Ireland   0-1   Iceland                                   
Kevin Long                18 Aug 1990     2 Jun 2017  26  Mexico                3-1   Republic of Ireland                       
Alan Browne               15 Apr 1995     2 Jun 2017  22  Mexico                3-1   Republic of Ireland                       
Sean Maguire               1 May 1994     6 Oct 2017  23  Republic of Ireland   2-0   Moldova                                   
Matt Doherty              16 Jan 1992    23 Mar 2018  26  Turkey                1-0   Republic of Ireland                       
Scott Hogan               13 Apr 1992    23 Mar 2018  25  Turkey                1-0   Republic of Ireland                       
Declan Rice               14 Jan 1999    23 Mar 2018  19  Turkey                1-0   Republic of Ireland                       
Derrick Williams          17 Jan 1993    28 May 2018  25  France                2-0   Republic of Ireland                       
Graham Burke              18 Sep 1993    28 May 2018  24  France                2-0   Republic of Ireland                       
Shaun Williams            19 Oct 1986    28 May 2018  31  France                2-0   Republic of Ireland                       
Darragh Lenihan           16 Mar 1994     2 Jun 2018  24  Republic of Ireland   2-1   USA                                       
Enda Stevens               9 Jul 1990     2 Jun 2018  27  Republic of Ireland   2-1   USA                                       
Callum Robinson            2 Feb 1995     6 Sep 2018  23  Wales                 4-1   Republic of Ireland                       
Aiden O'Brien              4 Oct 1993    11 Sep 2018  24  Poland                1-1   Republic of Ireland                       
Ronan Curtis              24 Mar 1996    15 Nov 2018  22  Republic of Ireland   0-0   Northern Ireland                          
Michael Obafemi            6 Jul 2000    19 Nov 2018  18  Denmark               0-0   Republic of Ireland                       
Oldest - Shaun Williams and David Forde, both 31
Youngest - Michael Obafemi, 18


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Originally posted by eddiebro eddiebro wrote:

Good comments by Richie Dunne https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/richard-dunne-wants-tottenham-wonderkid-18652473

So basically what I said LOL LOL
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little clip of his touches against Juventus here https://youtu.be/GXx8PBvxqcA
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Originally posted by willGUFC willGUFC wrote:

little clip of his touches against Juventus here https://youtu.be/GXx8PBvxqcA

from watching that he looks like a great passer, quick and good at holding it up
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https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019/0724/1064922-pochettino-parrott-can-be-part-of-spurs-first-team/

Not an unexpected answer. Seems to be saying that if Parrott is still with Spurs at the end of the transfer window, he has a chance of breaking into the first team. I guess he would hardly say the opposite that he had no chance of breaking into the first team...

Does the "we’ll see what happens at the end of the transfer window" potentially indicate that Parrott might go out on loan this season?
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