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Peno for Romania, Aaron Bolger with a very good tackle but the ref awards a peno.

Romania miss it anyway. 


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4 substitutions at this level is it?
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Originally posted by DalyerRegular DalyerRegular wrote:

4 substitutions at this level is it?
Hopefully its 5 or else we are getting thrown out LOL
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Some win and some talent there, albeit do have to temper it somewhat in that it was top seed versus bottom seed, tougher games ahead.
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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Some win and some talent there, albeit do have to temper it somewhat in that it was top seed versus bottom seed, tougher games ahead.

Wouldn’t imagine Azerbaijan are any better than Romania but it’s always hard to know at underage level. 


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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Some win and some talent there, albeit do have to temper it somewhat in that it was top seed versus bottom seed, tougher games ahead.

Wouldn’t imagine Azerbaijan are any better than Romania but it’s always hard to know at underage level. 


None of the other teams previous results look great to me - although I guess we are missing some of our bigger players compared to the first round.

Positive for the future though, which is great Clap
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Finish 5-0?
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can parrot drop back down if they qualify? We don't have another u21 game until September and the finals are on in July.
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Finishes 5-0.

Aaron Bolger was the stand out for me, I don’t understand why he’s swapped first team football for Cardiff’s u23s. 

Miles ahead of the rest. 
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Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

The likes of Connell, McGunniess and O'Farrell all on the bench would suggest serious strenght in depth along with Parrott, McAuley, Idah, Collins,  Connolly, Obafemi and O'Connor not even in squad.
Even the fact that Adam O'Reilly is heading to Turkey with the u18's and not in the u19's would also suggest serious talent in the u19 squad. But also there's a lot of sh*te and politics goes on at that level too. 
There is unquestionably a lot of politics goes on, but I would argue that is possibly the case in any small country. Part of the politics is understandable in a country with a traditionally big rural/urban divide and where the sport dominates in one geographical area. That is to say that will the perceived Dublin bias don't the years can be frustrating, it is also somewhat understandable.

There is also the fact that we live in age where we can all get a little knowledge and a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. That is to say, we often can't understand why some 18 year old isn't in the team/squad when we saw him play ten minutes once and he was excellent or, worse again, he should be in the squad as he is on the books of a famous club/franchise. We then put this down to politics. In reality, at anything under 21 it is a very difficult job for the coaches to know who our best players are and, more importantly, who they will be, never mind the fans. By that I mean that a lot of players who went on to great careers didn't stand out at underage level,Paul Scholes being a famous example.
Look through this thread and it is full of posts like: 'player x must be brilliant to keep the player I like out' or 'great squad and we are missing our three best players'. So when that perception of politics is there, it is easy to come to the conclusion that politics is behind all these decisions.

We also like to infer the quality of the opposition based on the strength of their senior team, as we are doing here with Romania, whose history would suggest they are, like many similarly sized Europen nations with a love of the game, cyclical. They seem to throw up a good team every twenty years or so and are probably due one.

I am not trying to take the gloss off a magnificent win that highlights the job our underage coaches have done with them, something is obviously right at the moment, a 5-0 win against anyone at this stage is terrific, I just feel a lot of opinions are thrown around without any real  knowledge.
That isn't aimed directly at the post I am replying to, more the thread in general.
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great result. azerbaijan up next. we should enjoy the watching the likes of ferry, smallbone and luca connell in a green jersey while we have the chance. apparently there was a man with a big nose wearing a blue waistcoat spotted in the car park, driving a blacked out van.
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Originally posted by Fozzy B Fozzy B wrote:

great result. azerbaijan up next. we should enjoy the watching the likes of ferry, smallbone and luca connell in a green jersey while we have the chance. apparently there was a man with a big nose wearing a blue waistcoat spotted in the car park, driving a blacked out van.
Has Mick McCarthy been to Louis Copeland's?
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Originally posted by Fozzy B Fozzy B wrote:

great result. azerbaijan up next. we should enjoy the watching the likes of ferry, smallbone and luca connell in a green jersey while we have the chance. apparently there was a man with a big nose wearing a blue waistcoat spotted in the car park, driving a blacked out van.

Ah, thats what has been missing in my life this last month or so - an Irish/ English dual nationality player panic. Set up individual threads for each of these lads and let's fill them with 200 pages of sh*te asap. 
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Great win, winning by 5 is like getting a bonus point in the rugby, beat Azerbaijan now and a draw will probably be enough against Russia. 
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Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

Great win, winning by 5 is like getting a bonus point in the rugby, beat Azerbaijan now and a draw will probably be enough against Russia. 


Well it depends on what Russia do of course
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

Great win, winning by 5 is like getting a bonus point in the rugby, beat Azerbaijan now and a draw will probably be enough against Russia. 


Well it depends on what Russia do of course


Given that this group involves Azerbaijan and Romania, both formerly eastern bloc, I wouldn't be surprised if they invaded, or at least got involved in some low level domestic political interference.
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