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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

They were clearly better than both sides on paper and in the game itself. In fairness, there was only one side that deserved to win in the England v Colombia game.

Yet you'll say a Croatia team that beat 2 poor teams on penalties are favourites for this.

Where does it say that people have to vote with their footballing preference? 

The majority of Irish football fans do not like the England football team, how can there be any argument? I was pretty sure that England would be in the final as soon as I saw the draw, that doesn't mean I won't vote against them in a silly ybig poll.

So you thought England would reach the final from the last 16?

Care to back that up with a post? Fair play if you can. 

Didn’t most people fear that England would make the finals or atleast the semis from when the last sixteen path was confirmed? 

They’ve been bookies favorites for every single game they’ve played since the Belgium match and there is not one team who they could have played who possibly could have started as favorites against them.

Even against Croatia, England are priced at 7/5 vs 12/5. 

Saying that I thought they would make the final from when the last sixteen draw was made is not exactly a hugely impressive or sweeping statement so I don’t think I’d need to back it up with any posts - they’ve been favorites to make the final from that side of the draw from the moment they lost to Belgium. 
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

They were clearly better than both sides on paper and in the game itself. In fairness, there was only one side that deserved to win in the England v Colombia game.

Yet you'll say a Croatia team that beat 2 poor teams on penalties are favourites for this.

Where does it say that people have to vote with their footballing preference? 

The majority of Irish football fans do not like the England football team, how can there be any argument? I was pretty sure that England would be in the final as soon as I saw the draw, that doesn't mean I won't vote against them in a silly ybig poll.

So you thought England would reach the final from the last 16?

Care to back that up with a post? Fair play if you can. 

Didn’t most people fear that England would make the finals or atleast the semis from when the last sixteen path was confirmed? 

They’ve been bookies favorites for every single game they’ve played since the Belgium match and there is not one team who they could have played who possibly could have started as favorites against them.

Even against Croatia, England are priced at 7/5 vs 12/5. 

Saying that I thought they would make the final from when the last sixteen draw was made is not exactly a hugely impressive or sweeping statement so I don’t think I’d need to back it up with any posts - they’ve been favorites to make the final from that side of the draw from the moment they lost to Belgium. 

Not in the slighest and I know absolutely no-one who thought England would make the World Cup Final and that includes myself.

So yes I would say it was a sweeping statement to suggest England would make the final.

Have you not read the posts on England on this forum? 90% of them are dismissive of just about everything England and Southgate have done or could do.




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Also, Spain would have been favourites from that side of the draw Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

They were clearly better than both sides on paper and in the game itself. In fairness, there was only one side that deserved to win in the England v Colombia game.

Yet you'll say a Croatia team that beat 2 poor teams on penalties are favourites for this.

Where does it say that people have to vote with their footballing preference? 

The majority of Irish football fans do not like the England football team, how can there be any argument? I was pretty sure that England would be in the final as soon as I saw the draw, that doesn't mean I won't vote against them in a silly ybig poll.

So you thought England would reach the final from the last 16?

Care to back that up with a post? Fair play if you can. 

Didn’t most people fear that England would make the finals or atleast the semis from when the last sixteen path was confirmed? 

They’ve been bookies favorites for every single game they’ve played since the Belgium match and there is not one team who they could have played who possibly could have started as favorites against them.

Even against Croatia, England are priced at 7/5 vs 12/5. 

Saying that I thought they would make the final from when the last sixteen draw was made is not exactly a hugely impressive or sweeping statement so I don’t think I’d need to back it up with any posts - they’ve been favorites to make the final from that side of the draw from the moment they lost to Belgium. 

Not in the slighest and I know absolutely no-one who thought England would make the World Cup Final and that includes myself.

So yes I would say it was a sweeping statement to suggest England would make the final.

Have you not read the posts on England on this forum? 90% of them are dismissive of just about everything England and Southgate have done or could do.



Logically, on paper atleast - England are better than all of Columbia, Switzerland / Sweden, Russia / Croatia. 

It’s only their history of f*cking it up when they really shouldn’t that has made people think they wouldn’t get to the semi’s at least. 

Should they over come Croatia I can’t help but think there’s been an air of inevitability about it all, as everything has slotted nicely into place for them along the way. 

They were favorites against everyone they’ve played and when playing to potential are better than all of those teams. 

I dislike England as much as any other Irish football fan, but I don’t think it’s a shock that they got to this stage. 

Russia, Sweden or Switzerland getting to the final would be a shock, but a team with Harry Kane in attack and then the likes of Sterling, Alli, Henderson etc, who are all elite level Champions League players reaching a final against average opposition isn’t a huge surprise.
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

They were clearly better than both sides on paper and in the game itself. In fairness, there was only one side that deserved to win in the England v Colombia game.

Yet you'll say a Croatia team that beat 2 poor teams on penalties are favourites for this.

Where does it say that people have to vote with their footballing preference? 

The majority of Irish football fans do not like the England football team, how can there be any argument? I was pretty sure that England would be in the final as soon as I saw the draw, that doesn't mean I won't vote against them in a silly ybig poll.

So you thought England would reach the final from the last 16?

Care to back that up with a post? Fair play if you can. 

Didn’t most people fear that England would make the finals or atleast the semis from when the last sixteen path was confirmed? 

They’ve been bookies favorites for every single game they’ve played since the Belgium match and there is not one team who they could have played who possibly could have started as favorites against them.

Even against Croatia, England are priced at 7/5 vs 12/5. 

Saying that I thought they would make the final from when the last sixteen draw was made is not exactly a hugely impressive or sweeping statement so I don’t think I’d need to back it up with any posts - they’ve been favorites to make the final from that side of the draw from the moment they lost to Belgium. 

Not in the slighest and I know absolutely no-one who thought England would make the World Cup Final and that includes myself.

So yes I would say it was a sweeping statement to suggest England would make the final.

Have you not read the posts on England on this forum? 90% of them are dismissive of just about everything England and Southgate have done or could do.



Logically, on paper atleast - England are better than all of Columbia, Switzerland / Sweden, Russia / Croatia. 

It’s only their history of f*cking it up when they really shouldn’t that has made people think they wouldn’t get to the semi’s at least. 

Should they over come Croatia I can’t help but think there’s been an air of inevitability about it all, as everything has slotted nicely into place for them along the way. 

They were favorites against everyone they’ve played and when playing to potential are better than all of those teams. 

I dislike England as much as any other Irish football fan, but I don’t think it’s a shock that they got to this stage. 

Russia, Sweden or Switzerland getting to the final would be a shock, but a team with Harry Kane in attack and then the likes of Sterling, Alli, Henderson etc, who are all elite level Champions League players reaching a final against average opposition isn’t a huge surprise.
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You said when the last 16 draw was made though and Spain were on England's side of the draw mate.

So why are we including Switzerland in this who only made the last 16 and not Spain Wink




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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

You said when the last 16 draw was made though and Spain were on England's side of the draw mate.

So why are we including Switzerland in this who only made the last 16 and not Spain Wink



Fair point I suppose had forgotten about them. 
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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

They were clearly better than both sides on paper and in the game itself. In fairness, there was only one side that deserved to win in the England v Colombia game.

Yet you'll say a Croatia team that beat 2 poor teams on penalties are favourites for this.

Where does it say that people have to vote with their footballing preference? 

The majority of Irish football fans do not like the England football team, how can there be any argument? I was pretty sure that England would be in the final as soon as I saw the draw, that doesn't mean I won't vote against them in a silly ybig poll.

So you thought England would reach the final from the last 16?

Care to back that up with a post? Fair play if you can. 

Didn’t most people fear that England would make the finals or atleast the semis from when the last sixteen path was confirmed? 

They’ve been bookies favorites for every single game they’ve played since the Belgium match and there is not one team who they could have played who possibly could have started as favorites against them.

Even against Croatia, England are priced at 7/5 vs 12/5. 

Saying that I thought they would make the final from when the last sixteen draw was made is not exactly a hugely impressive or sweeping statement so I don’t think I’d need to back it up with any posts - they’ve been favorites to make the final from that side of the draw from the moment they lost to Belgium. 

Not in the slighest and I know absolutely no-one who thought England would make the World Cup Final and that includes myself.

So yes I would say it was a sweeping statement to suggest England would make the final.

Have you not read the posts on England on this forum? 90% of them are dismissive of just about everything England and Southgate have done or could do.



Logically, on paper atleast - England are better than all of Columbia, Switzerland / Sweden, Russia / Croatia. 

It’s only their history of f*cking it up when they really shouldn’t that has made people think they wouldn’t get to the semi’s at least. 

Should they over come Croatia I can’t help but think there’s been an air of inevitability about it all, as everything has slotted nicely into place for them along the way. 

They were favorites against everyone they’ve played and when playing to potential are better than all of those teams. 

I dislike England as much as any other Irish football fan, but I don’t think it’s a shock that they got to this stage. 

Russia, Sweden or Switzerland getting to the final would be a shock, but a team with Harry Kane in attack and then the likes of Sterling, Alli, Henderson etc, who are all elite level Champions League players reaching a final against average opposition isn’t a huge surprise.
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

You said when the last 16 draw was made though and Spain were on England's side of the draw mate.

So why are we including Switzerland in this who only made the last 16 and not Spain Wink



Fair point I suppose had forgotten about them. 

Now if Spain weren't on the English side of the draw, Croatia potentially were the one side who I think are at least on a par if not slightly better than England who really could stand in their way of doing something special "but" there wasn't a hope in hell I was predicting that Spain were going to lose to Russia.

If the last 16 started allover again, Spain would still have been my pick to reach the Final from that side.
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Originally posted by E2016 E2016 wrote:

Croatia were average in their last 2 games. The teams are relatively evenly matched, England maybe have more quality in their starting 11, and certainly more off the bench.

Croatia are after 2 games in a row which went 120 minutes.

I look forward to coming back here after England have won and seeing the poll at 27-5 in favour of Croatia or some such rubbish.
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I don't really get this post match idea that England were always going to swat Sweden aside today. Sweden knocked the Dutch out in the qualifying group. The Italians out in the play offs. Beat the Mexican team who beat Germany 2-0, 3-0 and topped their world cup group and have very often been a bogey team for England. Today apart from the 3 very good chances they made they were awful. Why they had such a massive drop off in performance is hard to say.They looked very lethargic and lacking in energy right from the kick off.

Sweden's best players are Emil Forsberg, Marcus Berg and Andreas Granqvist, who play for Helsingborgs, Al Ain and Krasnodar FC respectively.  Sweden are an average team who punch above their weight and if the opposition team plays badly they can hurt them.  They're basically an upgraded version of Iceland 2.0.

Just this time England play a lot better than the crap they served up against Iceland in Euro 2016, hence the win today and fair play to them for that.

Yes Sweden knocked out Holland and Italy but those sides are pretty substandard these days, did you not see how terrible Holland were in the recent friendly against England?  Route 1 to Bas Dost? LOL 

Croatia on the other hand have players playing for Real Madrid (x2) Barcelona, Juventus, AC Milan Inter Milan, Liverpool, Monaco, Hoffenheim (3rd in the bundesliga this season).

England are finally playing players who play regularly in the Champions League for the first time in this WC (excluding the Belgium 2nd XI).

This will be a tight game, but IMO its game that suits Croatia far more than the games against Denmark (park the bus) Russia (park the bus), England will be more open and expansive in this game, similar to how Argentina IMO.  This is a 50/50 match.

But on paper Croatia HAVE to be a step up from Sweden and even Colombia.

  
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Fatigue shouldn’t be a big issue with Croatia as like England, they had the Luxury of resting their first XI in the last group game.

I’d be more worried about their form post the group stages.
They were very patchy in both games. The main positive is they went a goal down in each game and were able to equalise.

England still haven’t been fully tested and they have never been behind in any game. Also I feel this will be the first game where they will have less than 50% possession. Croatia will win the midfield battle.

It’s going to be a close game. If you were to do a combined XI it would be evenly split.

England will be relying on set pieces so Croatia need to ensure they don’t give anything away cheaply.

Both teams will be nervous as it’s a massive opportunity for one of them. 
It should be noted Croatia have also had a kind draw to get to the semi finals.

I think England will sneak it. If they played in the group stage Croatia would probably win it but I feel England will handle the pressure better.
I think we’ll England v Belgium final.

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Lads getting worked up because of polls on here. LOL

 FFS, I always vote for the underdog. It means f**k all.

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Originally posted by HuntysCousin HuntysCousin wrote:

Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Lads getting worked up because of polls on here. LOL

 FFS, I always vote for the underdog. It means f**k all.

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Originally posted by HuntysCousin HuntysCousin wrote:

Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Lads getting worked up because of polls on here. LOL

 FFS, I always vote for the underdog. It means f**k all.

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Fatigue shouldn’t be a big issue with Croatia as like England, they had the Luxury of resting their first XI in the last group game.

I’d be more worried about their form post the group stages.
They were very patchy in both games. The main positive is they went a goal down in each game and were able to equalise.

England still haven’t been fully tested and they have never been behind in any game. Also I feel this will be the first game where they will have less than 50% possession. Croatia will win the midfield battle.

It’s going to be a close game. If you were to do a combined XI it would be evenly split.

England will be relying on set pieces so Croatia need to ensure they don’t give anything away cheaply.

Both teams will be nervous as it’s a massive opportunity for one of them. 
It should be noted Croatia have also had a kind draw to get to the semi finals.

I think England will sneak it. If they played in the group stage Croatia would probably win it but I feel England will handle the pressure better.
I think we’ll England v Belgium final.

I think some people need to prepare for the worst. Although still an unlikely event, England may just win the World Cup. It would be foolish not to at least have a plan to move to the other side of the planet where they have no internet.



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