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    Posted: 01 Sep 2018 at 10:55am
Originally posted by UCDFAN UCDFAN wrote:

Originally posted by the_walls the_walls wrote:

Originally posted by UCDFAN UCDFAN wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

On a side note, I see Larnaca have cruised into the group stages

The distance the direct victor over a LOI team goes into the tournament is a legitimate measurement.
 
Another one, 'Don't you understand who we lost to!'  has been a significant indicator/metric in the past.  UCD Fans and their apologists have used that since at least 1984 v Everton.

So you're basically saying that LOI fans look at how far the teams who knocked them out go in the tournament as a way to feel good about being knocked out if that team goes far, except you're choosing to say it in the most convoluted, ridiculous way possible. Are you typing a foreign language into google translate to get this rubbish? A legitimate measurement of what by the way?

Anyway, see Dudelange from Luxembourg, who UCD (and their apologists) knocked out a few years back, knocked out Legia and Cluj to get to the group stage 

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1. No.  But you don't want a conversation, otherwise you might risk conversing with foreigners.
2.  It's a measurement of prestige.  Prestige has a high value among many, many LoI FCs.

F91 Diddelenge/ F91 Dudelange success in 2018 is indirect measurement in relation to UCD AFC of 2015.

I made a list of informal UEFA Club competition measuresments that I have been exposed to over the years.  With Lo Scienziato's 'c**k measuring' comment in mind I can show you if you like.

Ah here, so I want nothing to do with conversations with foreigners now or in other words, I'm racist LOL. How in god's name have you come to that conclusion? 

Do you actually go around in real life talking like this, going on about metrics, measurements of prestige and just basically dressing up very straight forward sentences with ridiculous words that make you sound like you swallowed a thesaurus? It's actually bonkers! 
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Originally posted by the_walls the_walls wrote:

Originally posted by UCDFAN UCDFAN wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

On a side note, I see Larnaca have cruised into the group stages

The distance the direct victor over a LOI team goes into the tournament is a legitimate measurement.
 
Another one, 'Don't you understand who we lost to!'  has been a significant indicator/metric in the past.  UCD Fans and their apologists have used that since at least 1984 v Everton.

So you're basically saying that LOI fans look at how far the teams who knocked them out go in the tournament as a way to feel good about being knocked out if that team goes far, except you're choosing to say it in the most convoluted, ridiculous way possible. Are you typing a foreign language into google translate to get this rubbish? A legitimate measurement of what by the way?

Anyway, see Dudelange from Luxembourg, who UCD (and their apologists) knocked out a few years back, knocked out Legia and Cluj to get to the group stage 

The short answers
1. No.  But you don't want a conversation, otherwise you might risk conversing with foreigners.
2.  It's a measurement of prestige.  Prestige has a high value among many, many LoI FCs.

F91 Diddelenge/ F91 Dudelange success in 2018 is indirect measurement in relation to UCD AFC of 2015.

I made a list of informal UEFA Club competition measuresments that I have been exposed to over the years.  With Lo Scienziato's 'c**k measuring' comment in mind I can show you if you like.
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Originally posted by the_walls the_walls wrote:

Originally posted by UCDFAN UCDFAN wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

On a side note, I see Larnaca have cruised into the group stages

The distance the direct victor over a LOI team goes into the tournament is a legitimate measurement.
 
Another one, 'Don't you understand who we lost to!'  has been a significant indicator/metric in the past.  UCD Fans and their apologists have used that since at least 1984 v Everton.

So you're basically saying that LOI fans look at how far the teams who knocked them out go in the tournament as a way to feel good about being knocked out if that team goes far, except you're choosing to say it in the most convoluted, ridiculous way possible. Are you typing a foreign language into google translate to get this rubbish? A legitimate measurement of what by the way?

Anyway, see Dudelange from Luxembourg, who UCD (and their apologists) knocked out a few years back, knocked out Legia and Cluj to get to the group stage 

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Originally posted by UCDFAN UCDFAN wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

On a side note, I see Larnaca have cruised into the group stages

The distance the direct victor over a LOI team goes into the tournament is a legitimate measurement.
 
Another one, 'Don't you understand who we lost to!'  has been a significant indicator/metric in the past.  UCD Fans and their apologists have used that since at least 1984 v Everton.

So you're basically saying that LOI fans look at how far the teams who knocked them out go in the tournament as a way to feel good about being knocked out if that team goes far, except you're choosing to say it in the most convoluted, ridiculous way possible. Are you typing a foreign language into google translate to get this rubbish? A legitimate measurement of what by the way?

Anyway, see Dudelange from Luxembourg, who UCD (and their apologists) knocked out a few years back, knocked out Legia and Cluj to get to the group stage 
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Originally posted by LO SCIENZIATO LO SCIENZIATO wrote:

Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

On a side note, I see Larnaca have cruised into the group stages
So have Rossenborg.

the who has a bigger cock contest has begun..... 


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Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

On a side note, I see Larnaca have cruised into the group stages
So have Rossenborg.

the who has a bigger cock contest has begun..... 
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Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

On a side note, I see Larnaca have cruised into the group stages
So have Rossenborg.
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Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

On a side note, I see Larnaca have cruised into the group stages

The distance the direct victor over a LOI team goes into the tournament is a legitimate measurement.
 
Another one, 'Don't you understand who we lost to!'  has been a significant indicator/metric in the past.  UCD Fans and their apologists have used that since at least 1984 v Everton.


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On a side note, I see Larnaca have cruised into the group stages

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Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

Looks like a new third tier competition could be introduced in 2021, with a reduction of spots in the Europa League. Could let an Irish team compete in Europe again, but not sure there would be much money or prestige with this third tier comp. 


This will almost certainly happen in some format, those lads are only concerned about selling TV rights, and the EL in its current format is probably too bloated for them to attract what Uefa would define as decent TV money. Tightening it up a bit and reducing the lower quality teams in it would probably help them from that point of view. 

As usual, it will be sold to the minnow associations as something positive, but it is hard to know whether it is or not. In one sense, it won't be a lot different for Irish teams who will still be playing lads from Luxembourg, Lithuania, Slovenia etc, but there will probably be reduced money for it, while the chances of repeating what Shamrock Rovers or Dundalk did in relatively recent years evaporate completely. 

The whole notion of cup football & being able to draw anyone, like Shams V Spurs or Dundalk V Zenit in the EL or Cork V Bayern back in the day will be a thing of the past. Given where our domestic game is at the moment, its probably not too much of a bad thing in general as our teams will play others on something of a level playing field, but in the bigger picture, now that the CL has effectively been ringfenced for the very elite clubs, it is mainly further ringfencing by shutting off entry to the tier below that. 

Presumably it will have a similar relationship with the EL as the EL does with CL, in that the winners get to play in the following years higher competition, but I don't think that will be a concern for followers of Irish LOI teams. 


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Wouldn't surprise me at all if UEFA announced a tiered format in European football when this new tournament is unveiled, with the Champions League for the likes of England, Germany and Spain, while we fight it out with the minnows of Europe for a spot in this tournament.
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Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

Looks like a new third tier competition could be introduced in 2021, with a reduction of spots in the Europa League. Could let an Irish team compete in Europe again, but not sure there would be much money or prestige with this third tier comp. 


They've already shut the door on the CL and now they'll do the same for the EL where it'll be Sassuolo Vs. Bournemouth instead of a semi-decent chance for domestic champions to compete at a higher level.
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Looks like a new third tier competition could be introduced in 2021, with a reduction of spots in the Europa League. Could let an Irish team compete in Europe again, but not sure there would be much money or prestige with this third tier comp. 

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[QUOTE=Cabra Hoop] Another disappointing result for Cork in Europe does not help the co-eff. Luckily not all doom and gloom, our other representatives managed some wins between them which gets us a few points. Cork might pick up something in Norway next week.
I see Derry's win in Belarus was franked somewhat by Minsk's result this week, a 4-0 win over Zenit.[/QUOTE

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Brian Kerr fairly scathing about our sides' European performances.



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I think it is still used by the youth competitions.
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The co-efficient matters very little these days as it only gets adopted by clubs who's individual coefficient is less than the leagues. 
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Another disappointing result for Cork in Europe does not help the co-eff. Luckily not all doom and gloom, our other representatives managed some wins between them which gets us a few points. Cork might pick up something in Norway next week.
I see Derry's win in Belarus was franked somewhat by Minsk's result this week, a 4-0 win over Zenit.
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