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Bo Jackson
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You'll be glad to know chief it was a different station. Skerries wasn't targeted........yet
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randyrandolph
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and again. why is it people on the YES side, struggle to post/ debate without insulting people who might be inclined/ considering a NO vote..
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nvidic
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Pass 5/6 different ones on the way to work, all well designed and on virtually every lamppost. Pass two different Yes ones on, at most, 6 lampposts, all poorly designed with terrible wording - 'sometimes a private matter needs public support' being one. |
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Het-field
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I think what has made it easier to poster and leaflet for the "Save the 8th" campaign is that it generally is reliant on the arguments that have been put forward for years. It doesn't take huge amounts of ingenuity to come up with the arguments, and as expected is resorting to the emotive argument.
The Pro-repeal side need to be far more analytical in the way they present their argument. Particularly as they know that arguing the case on the liberalisation of abortion services will only appeal to a small section of the public, which will fall well short of carrying the vote. It needs to focus on the grey areas, and the anomalies created by the 8th, while also putting forward the human rights cases, and the opinions of the Doctors and Lawyers who understand the implications of the 8th better than anybody else. I actually think the Repeal Campaign has been impressively mobilised, and it has not taken much to get it going. I think it will go from strength to strength over the next few weeks, and any bad polls will mobilise people who might otherwise have stayed at home rather than knock on doors. Historically, the campaign for liberalisation of abortion services has been awfully disjointed and haphazard, and incapable of a single message. This is a new approach which will get even better.
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ringerbell
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There is still a fear in some people for showing support to the Yes side of the argument too. I work directly with young people (alot of whom are the age to vote) and we have been told by the board we must show a neutral stance on the issue at all times, this wasn't the case for previous votes and referendums.
Imo this has happened for fear of backlash no matter what side of the argument they may have picked.
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Het-field
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Just curious, is it just the company that is taking a neutral stance, or are you expected to remain neutral for the whole campaign, even in a personal capacity once you leave the office?
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ringerbell
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Have to remain neutral when at work and if wearing anything that shows who I work for so branded clothes etc. Can't post anything on social media if I've said I worked for them etc
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Is your job training blue-eyed men to be young believers?
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rossieman
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Gary McKay
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WTF ? Do you live in North Korea ? |
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Het-field
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I find the concept of political neutrality on matters cowardly. Unless you are consistently neutral and apolitical to the point that it is your ideology, it seems to me to be an almost annoying way of being a friend of the status quo, or a way of avoiding having to indicate your true feelings on a matters which might make you unpopular, or that the opinion you may hold may actually be objectionable.
While the company is entitled to do what it likes (provided its private), i'm not sure what they mean by if you've told anybody you work for them that you cant illustrate your views. Is that just on social media, or on a wider basis?
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ringerbell
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I agree with you on that believe sitting on the fence e.g. been neutral is a cop out In terms of outside of work hours social media was 1 aspect mention and any functions etc we attend wearing work clothes etc. Free to talk about it in own time as long as have nothing on that shows work logo etc
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Het-field
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Fair enough! And as a private company they do have the right to request that their name not be brought into the debate.
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corkery
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Every Civil Servant must remain neutral on referenda.
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'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick
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Het-field
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I see “Love Both” launched their campaign today. It includes former Libertas EP candidate Caroline Simons, and impeached UCD SU President, Katie Ascough.
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RogerMilla
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I think this one is not going to go through . Old people vote and young people do not .
Personally I am anti-abortion but I have no right to tell a woman what to do with her body and would vote yes if I lived in Ireland.
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The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own.
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corkery
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I think it'll be a no vote as the 'Yes' side are not debating, rather just insulting. You need to convince the undecides voters, especially men, who would have a higher amount voting 'no'. Shouting down any opinion will not work.
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'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick
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MC Hammered
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Do you mean that you are voting no or do you mean that you think that the result of the referendum will be no?
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El Puto Amo
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