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bhob
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One of the strangest posts i've seen on VAR
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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You get a bang to the head yourself CH?
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Cabra Hoop
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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Ray Houghton Football version of Comical Ali. Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3836 |
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They can seek any method they like, as long as it complies with the laws of the game.
Pushing and pulling in the box at set plays is neither, and is liable to result in a penalty or a free kick. VAR is designed to stop all that and ensure that fair play is enforced. If refs don't have the bottle to do it, VAR will do it instead. 22 penalties in the tournament so far, a new record. 0 awarded for diving. The way it's supposed to be.
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bhob
Roy Keane YBIGs Donald Trump Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 10470 |
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What? As PM said, you sure you haven't suffered a blow to the head yourself?
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Devrozex
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Very interesting stats. I was only saying to someone last night how it felt like there'd been a crazy amount of penos in the WC so far. And really the introduction of VAR was always going to lead to that. All the 'dark arts' type defending you could get away with previously is a lot more tricky to pull off when it can be replayed in slow motion from multiple angles. VAR is going to have a huge impact in how defenders go about their business in future - which can only be good for the game.
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Jack Charlton Man City records obsession Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Location: Dundalk Status: Offline Points: 9647 |
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But I think the threshold for a peno now is lower than it was before. And we still have the issue with consistency. Last night Nigeria didn’t get a peno for head to arm but there was one the other night that was similar. As planning said the diving in the box has been reduced which is a good thing. We are up to 21 Peno’s now. I hope the top scorer doesn’t get there by having 3/4 Peno’s. |
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Fruice
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the big change that needs to be made is carding guys for asking for VAR Kelly the Irish ref in the MLS says it works very well there.
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9fingers
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Last nights no decision was correct imo.
I think VAR has been a success but there’s plenty of teething problems, surrounding the ref, consistency etc. |
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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The biggest problems have been with interpretation of the rules which have led to inconsistencies. There should have been better instructions given to the referees regarding holding at corners and handball in the box.Also, while there has been less diving those that have cheated, even in incidents where VAR has been used, have got away with it. Surely a yellow can be produced when there is clear evidence of a dive.
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Robbie Keane sPICE UP YOUR LIFE Gwan MONROY Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 24595 |
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Cabra Hoop I thought you were taking the mick. When there wasn't all this pulling and dragging where were the head injuries? There were none.
Ref got the Nigerian peno right, Mascherano was holding yer man, not as roughly as we've seen, but holding him nevertheless and that's a peno every time. If there are penos EVERY time for holding/pulling/dragging, it'll finally stop. It's not been in football for the 47 years I've been watching televised/live football so hopefully VAR and braver refs (where there's no VAR) will finally start to award these penos. If there's 3/4 penos a game, so be it till it finally stops.
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Cabra Hoop
Roy Keane Joined: 06 Feb 2012 Location: Royal County Status: Offline Points: 10836 |
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FW - not taking the mick. When VAR hopefully puts an end to the shenanigans in the box what will defenders do to gain an advantage ? I think there will be a lot more aerial duels and some defenders might cross the line and deliberately try to take out opponents - I can think of at least 2 champion league winning central defenders who would have no problem doing this. Of course I might be wrong and just an old cynical curmudgeon.
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It's looking most likely that he will. So what? A penalty still has to be scored. The two biggest stars of this WC have already missed one.
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Robbie Keane sPICE UP YOUR LIFE Gwan MONROY Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 24595 |
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Most of them (apart from Chiellini) won't even risk getting hurt when a shot comes in as they all turn their backs the windy coonts so I really don't think they're gonna risk a busted head to gain an advantage. Telling you lads, once penos become the norm rather than the exception, it'll stop.
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Personally think the auld VAR system is good for the game. It needs to be given a chance to develop and be refined.
I agree with FW that when penalties become the norm it will stop. Defenders might have to actually defend corners and mark their their man, instead of hanging out of them, another plus for football.
For Irish fans that are against or don't like it, I always point out that there would be no Hand of Frog if VAR was around! |
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Roberto Baggio
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unpopular opinion time - I’m not overly bothered how many times a ref goes to consult VAR during a game or how much longer the game goes on for subsequently
It’s good entertainment
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Denis Irwin
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+1
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bhob
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Agreed. I think it adds to the game with the potential for a decision to be overturned or reinforced. Good drama
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