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VAR almost gifted Bournemouth a vital point tonight by not giving City a clear penalty when 2-0 up
Was it sympathy because they were 2 down and it was still the first half?
It didn’t mean much at the time, Jesus barely even appealed for it, but in the end that incorrect decision could have kept them up, the way they finished the game 
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A common theme with VAR recently is that if a team is getting well beaten they stop giving the team who are winning decisions - penalties for example which clearly are penalties 
It has to be consistent no matter the conditions of the game 

I also always wonder if the refs in Stockley Park listen to the Sky or BT commentators to see what they say before deciding, as very rarely does the decision differ. 
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At Norwich last weekend was the first time in the premier league I'd seen the ref go over to the touchline to review a incident on the TV there. Has it happened much? It was a bad tackle that he missed, one review and he could see it was a Red
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Its a nonsense stopping a game, what felt like 2 mins after the restart to award a retake.  Why did it take so long to spot that?  Very harsh.  Was barely off his line.  I think VAR is good but its being used in the wrong way imo.
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The keeper was reminded before the kick to keep a foot on the line. As he didn't do that and saved the kick, the penalty was retaken. If he wasn't spotted off his line, people would complain why it wasn't retaken. Defenders are not getting away with handling the ball in the box anymore. Unintentional handball below the badge on the arm, is classified as handball, and a penalty is awarded 

9 decisions so far in the EPL. All correct as per the laws of the game. 




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Fails again today in Merseyside derby.  

Red card earlier for pickford and then the disallowed goal at the end. It should not get that technical. Either clearly offside or you are level and onside. 
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

Fails again today in Merseyside derby.  

Red card earlier for pickford and then the disallowed goal at the end. It should not get that technical. Either clearly offside or you are level and onside. 

Was it his shirt sleeve offside or what?? Crazy decisions for both!
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Right decision based on the ruling for the offside, but a ridiculous rule it is

No idea how Pickford got away with it through and Richarlisons red was filthy
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Was it the correct decision Planning? ardent fan of Liverpool and VAR
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Ironic that it was Mane’s elbow that was offside considering he got away with smashing it into Tierneys face a few weeks ago 
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Originally posted by ChesterCopperpot ChesterCopperpot wrote:

Right decision based on the ruling for the offside, but a ridiculous rule it is

No idea how Pickford got away with it through and Richarlisons red was filthy


What is the ruling you're referring to? Genuine question. 

From what I could see, there didn't look to be a scoring part of his body offside (head/leg) so it looked like it was the wrong decision but open to correction. 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Ironic that it was Mane’s elbow that was offside considering he got away with smashing it into Tierneys face a few weeks ago 


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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Ironic that it was Mane’s elbow that was offside considering he got away with smashing it into Tierneys face a few weeks ago 
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by ChesterCopperpot ChesterCopperpot wrote:

Right decision based on the ruling for the offside, but a ridiculous rule it is

No idea how Pickford got away with it through and Richarlisons red was filthy


What is the ruling you're referring to? Genuine question. 

From what I could see, there didn't look to be a scoring part of his body offside (head/leg) so it looked like it was the wrong decision but open to correction. 

Stand Corrected - I thought it was any part of the body, it's any part of the body except the hand or arm
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Most definitely not why the VAR was introduced. They've created a monster.

As for the offside. Back in '94 they introduced the ruling for the WC that when the attacking player and defender are level, it would not be ruled as offside. This to try and stimulate attacking play and thus get more goals. How they ever moved away from that standpoint and ended up where we are now is a mystery. Though, knowing the Fifa, it probably has to do with money....
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Originally posted by Steve Amsterdam Steve Amsterdam wrote:

Most definitely not why the VAR was introduced. They've created a monster.

As for the offside. Back in '94 they introduced the ruling for the WC that when the attacking player and defender are level, it would not be ruled as offside. This to try and stimulate attacking play and thus get more goals. How they ever moved away from that standpoint and ended up where we are now is a mystery. Though, knowing the Fifa, it probably has to do with money....


The way VAR is being used now is ridiculous.  Either they use it sensibly or scrap it immediately.  I was in favour of it but they are not using it with any bit of sense at all.

Changes I'd make off the top of my head.

VAR cannot be used for offsides.  Human judgement of the lineman only.

1 challenge per game per team.  If you waste your challenge too bad if there is a wrong call later on.

Get rid of using it for penalising accidental handballs. 




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Originally posted by Steve Amsterdam Steve Amsterdam wrote:


As for the offside. Back in '94 they introduced the ruling for the WC that when the attacking player and defender are level, it would not be ruled as offside. This to try and stimulate attacking play and thus get more goals. How they ever moved away from that standpoint and ended up where we are now is a mystery. Though, knowing the Fifa, it probably has to do with money....

The rule was introduced after the 1990 WC. 

In the Liverpool game, I've seen the zoom of the frame. The red broken line for Mane landed, lands in front of the yellow line of the Everton defender's foot. Therefore the decision to disallow the goal was correct. A VAR is not there to give goals or disallow them. VAR is there to enforce the current laws  of the game, when they haven't been on the field. However, I find that it's the same small minority of refs who find themselves at the centre of attention when VAR decisions are back in the headlines. Unfortunately, this is not the first time, or even the fourth time that Coote's use of VAR has caused uproar. It undermines all the good things that having VAR brings to the game.
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