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Hotlips_Hoolahan 
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More accounts of racist bullying endemic in the youth setup of another English club: https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/max-noble-fulham-fc-academy-bullying-racism-interview-certified-sports-845000 I doubt it'll get any traction in the mainstream British sports media, though, despite their dedication to rolling coverage of any hint of racism in any other country.
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Double Maxim
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Marcus Rushford on the racist abuse he has received since Man U's 0 0 draw with Arsenal as "humanity and social media at its worst."
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Double Maxim without doubt the greatest drink in the world
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ripbomb
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Utter crap from the Judge in Kerry today in the Ian Wright racist abuse case.
Ah sure it was out of character, Ah sure it was heat of the moment, Ah sure he's a nice lad from a nice family. Anyone that posts stuff like he did deserved 3 months jail time. Wright himself is really pissed off ovet the lightweighted decision. Basically a slap on the wrist.
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Baldrick
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Should the title of this thread be changed. It doesn't really tell you what it is about
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AKA pedantic kunt
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BrendanD88
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Did you read what sparked the abuse? It was down to Ian Wright not playing well in the FIFA game for him, the absolute mentalist should be locked up.
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ripbomb
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Sham157
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What punishment was handed down?
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ripbomb
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Probation... whatever that means. No Criminal conviction against the tramp. I mean he messaged Ian Wright TWENTY different times to abuse him. F**king judge makes me mad. What sort of message does that send? Edited by ripbomb - 03 Feb 2021 at 7:34pm |
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horsebox
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ripbomb
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brissy
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He should of getting a short time inside, just to let others know it's not ok what he done. Ian wright comes across as a top bloke and didn't have to say he forgave him, hope the lad has learned his lesson, time will tell.
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Het-field
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Its actually worth reading the coverage around the case. Particular the steps taken by the Defendant in the aftermath of the incident. These were all taken into account by the Judge. The case was taken at District Court level , there was an early admission and co-operation, the early guilty plea, the positive probation report, the voluntary contribution to an anti-racism organisation, the display of remorse, and the defendants previous character. He also, it seems had, of his own volition done some sort of course to "understand the gravity of his actions". The financial contribution was 1/3 the maximum fine that could have been imposed by the Court.
There is a public interest in taking these things into account when sentencing, and determining the appropriate outcome. Previous poor character, refusal to admit guilt, lack of remorse, and to basically stand there with one's hand in their pockets will land a Defendant in hotter water when it comes to sentencing. The truth is, when taken in the round, a number of steps had to be taken in order for this particular sentence being fixed. Without a number of those factors, the sentence would have been harsher. Basically, the Judge made it clear that it wasn't okay, but took into account, as a Judge must do, the mitigating factors. Also, there has been widespread coverage of this particular incident which means that it won't just disappear. The Defendant's name is out in the public domain, and he will have to deal with that going forward, as a consequence. Ian Wright has also made it clear that he is very disappointed with the outcome, which in turn makes this international news. The vast, vast majority of District Court cases won't even make the local newspaper. The Defendant won't be immune from this story re-emerging and, like I said, that is an unrecorded consequence.
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The Huntacha
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I don't think he should have been jailed. Education is the answer, not imprisonment. As part of his sentencing, he should be made attend course based around the issue of racism (if there are any), a community service education approach, where failure to attend or engage in the program will result in short-term imprisonment. As someone mentioned above, his reason for the outburst is insane. Who does something like that after playing a video game? He should work on those issues too.
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The Huntacha
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I agree with a lot of that. He did hand himself in to the Gardai at the time and donated 500e to an anti-racism organisation. I agree that his life shouldn't be ruined by imprisonment, as he will be dealing with consequences of his actions for a long time in to the future. It'll follow him around for a long time. I know Ian Wright has asked where is the deterrent if this is the sentence, and he has a point. The stigma attached to this young lad is an unforeseen consequence for those who commit racist abuse in public/online settings, so while it does have it's consequences, it's not an obvious deterrent. However, those voluntary contributions are a cop-out, as they're usually done to convey a level of remorse, when in reality, if it hadn't become such headline news, he wouldn't have handed himself in or made the contribution. I agree with him being given probation but would like to see mandatory (re-) education programmes to be included in the sentencing.
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Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
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sid waddell
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"Voluntary contributions" are a bit like indulgences in the Catholic Church way back
All they demonstrate is the ability to pay money Thought Wright's statement was very good The lack of punishment from the judge will only embolden others to do what this **** in Tralee did
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Het-field
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From the point of view of the voluntary contribution, nobody knows what his financial circumstances are, and as a result, what sort of a financial stretch it might have been for him or his family. It was undoubtedly seen as a way to make amends, and it is seen as a positive action of contrition. But, it was only one of the factors taken into account in mitigation
I'm not sure how it emboldens anybody who actually read the case. I could guarantee that if somebody was to commit the same offence, on the same terms, and walked into Court having behaved in the exact opposite way to the Defendant, when it came to making amends and taking responsibility, there would be no chance of a similar outcome.
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thebronze14
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Agreed. Needs to be a precedence set against people who indulge in this sort of behaviour. It won't solve the problem but it might make people think twice before posting. The fact he posted 20 odd times makes me think there's something deeper going on with this lad rather than a spur of the moment thing. Be that deep seeded racism or a mental health issue. When Alex Jankewich got sent off the other night, the first thing I though was that he was going to be subjected to racist abuse online now being a young black man. Low and behold it happened. It's a sad reflection on the society we live in. Judging by one or two posters on this forum (George Nkencho thread), they probably thing it's ok sadly as it's free speech
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