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Davey Langan Joined: 21 Jun 2012 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 787 |
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Doherty was one our best player in the last round over the three games - why would you consider moving him from his most effective position? Obobamidele may be a good prospect but McGrath or Lawrenson he is not. Also this was tried with Cyrus Christie not so long ago & on that evidence it should be a no.
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shakeyshamrock
500 Club la la la Joined: 25 May 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 577 |
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^^^ this manager just gets worse and worse - he won't even make crazy decisions and play players out of position like I suggest.. disgraceful.. this forum just keeps on giving!
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J89
Ray Houghton Joined: 25 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 3600 |
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Robinson has averaged 33mins a game since Covid. Unless he puts in back to back starts highly doubt he'll be in from the start against Azerbaijan. |
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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You would be the first to lambast Kenny if he played Doherty in central midfield and we lost. As I said earlier, if you want to criticise Kenny to high heaven then knock yourself out, there's plenty of (real) ammo there rather than just making stuff up. Not selecting Clark for example is fair game. Btw Doherty's versatility has been used under Kenny, he has played RB/RWB/LWB and LCB. He's not a central midfielder. Omobamidele is just starting out, comparisons with Mc Grath or Lawrenson are laughable at this stage. No doubt you'd also be knocking Kenny if he started a 19yo out of position as a CDM in a must win game. You dont rate Kenny, we get it! For the record, no other manager worth his salt would be doing as you suggest.
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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Fair enough, I'm just pointing out that Knight has averaged 35mins a game since returning from a medium term injury and he missed pre-season, so the same doubts should apply to him.
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J89
Ray Houghton Joined: 25 Mar 2018 Status: Offline Points: 3600 |
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They will if he gets little minutes off the bench, but he's already played 85mins in his second game back. Maybe that was bad management by Rooney and now he's easing him back in. Or again he just doesn't know how to utilise Knight best so brings him on as an impact sub. Robinson started his second game but only managed 45 before they took him off at half time. |
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Badgersboys9
Ray Houghton Joined: 12 Oct 2019 Status: Offline Points: 3495 |
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Why exactly? Do you train with the squad? I can't comprehend how you can come to conclusion about a 19yo new to the international game. |
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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Because he's not worth his salt - ENTIRELY VALID OPINION Coleman and Doherty had their best games when in the same side in Portugal. - AGREED So Kenny switches Coleman to a back-three and returns Doherty to the right against Azerbaijan - bizarre. - POSSIBLY AN ERROR IN HINDSIGHT, MAYBE COLEMAN DIDNT HAVE THE LEGS TO DO ANOTHER STINT AT RWB, MAYBE HE DIDNT WANT TO THROW OMABAMIDELE IN, NOT PARTICULARLY BIZARRE HOWEVER IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, THERE WERE 3 GAMES IN 6 DAYS TO NAVIGATE Also switches to a front three with Connolly and Parrott running around like headless chooks. - I'M NOT SURPRISED HE CHANGED FORMATION, PORTUGAL AWAY VS AZERBAIJAN AT HOME IS A VERY DIFFERENT ANIMAL. PARROTT IN PARTICULAR JUST DIDNT GET IN TO THE GAME PLAYING ON THE RHS OF THE THREE, I THINK HE IN PARTICULAR DIDNT WORK IN THAT POSITION, BUT THE FORMATION ITSELF WS FINE. And I previously suggested Doherty for midfield - I HAVE NO IDEA WHY YOU THINK DOHERTY WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR MIDFIELD, ESPECIALLY WHEN KENNY HAS SETTLED ON A FORMATION THAT UTILISES WING BACKS, WHICH IS DOHERTY'S BEST POSITION BY A DISTANCE AND HE CAN ALSO PLAY EITHER FLANK. - so the only KO around here is your derivative rhetoric, _ NOT DERIVATIVE< ALL MY OWN WORK THANKS all said before - and without challenging War and Peace for verbiage. - I'LL TAKE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT
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Liam Brady Joined: 13 Jan 2016 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 1749 |
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There were huge issues with the formation for the Azerbaijan game. |
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Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 6773 |
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Looks like Molumby might get a chance to prove himself in the West Brom first team in the next few weeks. |
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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Not so much second time around though Same formation no, just different personnel?
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greenshoots
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 08 Jun 2021 Location: Limerick Status: Offline Points: 450 |
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Yes the personnel changed. At the home match v Azeri, we had Doherty at RWB and Coleman at RCB, even though we had tried this before and it didnt work again... Also Connolly and Parrott didnt play well upfront in the home match, whereas we got goals from Robinson in the away match. The biggest area of concern I have with Kenny is the tendency to get personnel decisions wrong. Horgan was another one on Sat night. I think it's not a good sign when we see a teamsheet an hour before a match and yet another rabbit seems to be pulled out of the hat. There should be consistency in selection |
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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Twas a bit tongue in cheek tbh. As regards Horgan, I was also unhappy with his selection, I just dont see it with him and he's 29 now so not really open to improvement. However he rectified his error at half time and all in all I think he deserves some credit. I also think a lot of the criticism regarding consistency in team selection is ott, there has been a serious lack of continuity in the players available throughout his tenure and we have seen 3 game windows the last twice which undoubtedly had an effect on team selection given that several players weren't getting regular game time. Horgan was a surprise and not a good one imo, but I think most of us are now pretty certain about 9 or 10 of the starting XI. Worth pointing out also that Coleman, Knight and O'Shea were missing on Saturday all of whom would be likely to figure in our strongest XI.
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kevin100
Ray Houghton Joined: 01 Jul 2020 Location: Mallow Status: Offline Points: 3379 |
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With Mowatt out the next few weeks could be a massive opportunity for Molumby to get a run in a decent side and stake a claim. Ismaels style is tailor made for him so hopefully he does well and takes the opportunity. Big few weeks for him I'd argue of any Irish player he's top of my "hope he performs" list.
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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Honestly, I hope youre right, but I just dont see it with him (yet at least!). He lacks tactical awareness and discipline and at times he just seems to run around a lot throwing himself into tackles. He's clearly got an engine, but does he have the game intelligence to go with it. Hopefully a good run of games in a settled position under a good manager in a decent team will allow me to assess him more fairly, but tbh I havent been impressed at all to date.
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kevin100
Ray Houghton Joined: 01 Jul 2020 Location: Mallow Status: Offline Points: 3379 |
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Think I said after the AZR home game there was a wiff of Mcclean off him lacks composure reckless. Now hes not playing probably mad keen to impress etc. He's a run of games now so hopefully he can play well. He can play on the ball too he's proven that which is what made some of his loose touches against AZR frustrating.
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Jack Charlton Joined: 04 Aug 2020 Status: Offline Points: 6615 |
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Millwall and Preston journos give their opinions on what Molumby can offer West Brom, as Mowatt faces spell on sidelines: https://www.shropshirestar.com/sport/football/2021/10/12/inside-track-what-can-west-brom-expect-from-jayson-molumby/
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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Benched again tonight despite Mowatt absence, disappointing. CR7 starts however!
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