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Cabra Hoop
Roy Keane Joined: 06 Feb 2012 Location: Royal County Status: Offline Points: 10776 |
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3rd class - 3 days from Kaliningrad to Sochi. At least 36 cans, 2 batch loaves and a 12 pack of Hunky Dory's..
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kearney304
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We did 9 hours from Bucharest to Chisinau. What a session. I tell you, we cleaned out every shop / garage of cans for the whole trip. Bags of cans everywhere. What were the quality cans we were drinking I hear you ask. Ursula "UrSus"
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gspain
Ray Houghton Joined: 21 Apr 2010 Status: Offline Points: 4676 |
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I spoke to a couple of people who used it during the Confederations Cup and it was fine. Obviously not for Sochi to Kaliningrad but for some routes it would be ideal. Overnight trains and savings on hotels etc. You will need to book your trains though.
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PhilliyK
Roy Keane Granny Grabber Joined: 24 Jun 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12452 |
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Was at a fan embassy meeting in July around the world cup. At that point Ukraine were looking likely to qualify. At that meeting were some Russian fan embassy people and I believe one is highly involved in the setup for the world cup. I asked the question how safe would visitor's to Russia be and fan safety in general. At this point the Ukrainians beside me asked can they give any guarantees to them that they would be safe while in Russia(I also asked about Polish etc), the response was they can guarantee your safety in the grounds itself. So I asked again what about in the cities and their reply again was we can guarantee your safety in the stadium. So then further asked as like Poland / France we all love staying in a town/city close to the host city so asked how safe they would be and again was told you'll be safe in the stadium they did say it would be safer staying in host cities than off the beaten track places but to be honest, like G says I can't envisage much trouble, sure we were all warned off Polish hooligans etc and nothing happened (bar a few skirmishs between them and other fans), France we were warned of terror threats but nothing happened so for me I'd say, go, be friendly and it will be reciprocated, be a dick and it'll be reciprocated. In short if going have a bit of cop on and common sense on how to mind/behave yourself |
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PhilliyK
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The free trains used will be specific for fans. Not squeezed away in some carriage at the back packed in like something we've seen from India etc . You need your fan id to avail of these and be booked in advance. They will only go between host cities as far as I know so if looking to make other trips you'll have to sort and pay for those yourself. It will require a degree of planning for what trains you get to suit your needs. When I mentioned about Kalingrad it was like I was the only person in a room of about 30 people that knew Kalingrad is not a joined part of Russia and you have to cross through or over another country to get there so they couldn't give me any specific answers about visa's etc for there but did mention one interesting point that I need to follow up on before posting any detail. I did have further questions I was to send to the organisers but sort of forgot to follow up on this so far but one question I was going to ask was about segregation in the trains etc. If anyone has any other questions about them fire them up and I'll add them to my list |
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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Are they guaranteed to be third class, as in open bunks, on the fan trains?
There's also a rumour they're dry trains and they won't allow booze at all... If they're going to be open bunks, I would definitely be tempted to book a normal train in second class. |
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PhilliyK
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Haha dry trains, yes I was told that and burst out laughing, they may say they're dry trains (think most trains in Russia are) but we're an ingenious lot for getting drink wherever we want. I will ask about the type of train. As I was led to believe these trains are specifically for football fans and general public won't be allowed on them. If that is the case then I'm also making the assumption they are like the trains recently shown on the recent BBC documentary series where Simon Reeves travelled Russia (think its called Russia). The trains on that show had carriages for what looked like 4 people with bunk beds above the seats. As the train expert SD I'm sure you'll know better what the types of trains are in Russia |
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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There are generally three classes:
1st class has compartments with 2 beds per compartment, and locking doors 2nd class has compartments with 4 beds per compartment, and locking doors 3rd class is open plan and has bunks only, with curtains for privacy, and no locking doors The fans trains are, I think, only for football fans, so they shouldn't be stopping at intermediate stations. They may well be direct / non-stop, bar maybe the odd stop to change crews or locomotives or whatever. However, they could also just be carriages attached to normal service trains: if that's the case, they'll stop in the same number of places. There are a lot of questions, anyway. I'd like to know from someone who was at the confederations cup. |
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gspain
Ray Houghton Joined: 21 Apr 2010 Status: Offline Points: 4676 |
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Those who applied for tickets in phase 1 may see pending charges on their credit cards. Note I strongly suspect charging is only at the early stages so I wouldn't be too concerned yet if no charges. I have a pending charge for just under half of my application. Obviously no idea yet what games I did/didn't get. I know of others who applied for games that will be easy to get and no charges yet.
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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Did you apply for individual games or Ireland TST tickets?
Edit: I only applied for Ireland TST3 Cat2 tickets. No pending charge yet that I can see. Edited by SuperDave84 - 26 Oct 2017 at 8:03pm |
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mouldymould
500 Club la la la Joined: 07 Jul 2011 Status: Offline Points: 597 |
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Applied in phase 1 and no charges here yet. Still another 3 weeks left anyway until the first come first served tickets. Made a second application for CAT 4 tickets for quarters (Kazan/Sochi), semis (St. Petersburg/Moscow), and the final in Moscow to pay via bank transfer. Will be very interesting to see the results of that application. |
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Colum
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We're Cat 4 not just open to the locals? |
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mouldymould
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I have an apartment there with my other half who has a Russian passport so was able to apply that way |
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Colum
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Edited by Colum - 26 Oct 2017 at 9:11pm |
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Hickster74
Davey Langan Joined: 20 Oct 2015 Location: Depends Status: Offline Points: 931 |
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Any emails yet? Applied for Cat 1s to the final and sh*ttin meself!
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finbarrk
Alan Kernaghan Joined: 10 Sep 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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I had a grand apartment in Moscow city centre booked since last June with booking.com. Got 2 emails yesterday from the apartment company saying my credit card was out of date. It wasn't, bit I updated it anyway on booking.com twice . Then got another email from the apartment saying it was cancelled as my credit card was out of date. It's relisted now at 3 times the price. Can't trust the Russians.
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Colum
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finbarrk
Alan Kernaghan Joined: 10 Sep 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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I called them last night, but when they tried to contact the apartment management it was too late at night in Moscow. Even though I had only got the email about 20 mins before that. They are going to try again today. But I don't hold out much hope of holding on to the apartment, well for the price I had it got for anyway. I'll see how it goes.
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