Georgia v Ireland - 2 September

Trap junior wrote: Irish2011 wrote: Trap junior wrote: I'm not saying Mick but I'd definitely have him over O'Neill.  He always encouraged the lads to play good football, most games were entertaining to watch and even when we lost we went down fighting. Switzerland home 2002. 1-0 down and then 1-1 and tried to win the game but got caught on the break late on.  At least we had the balls to go for the jugular. Now we try to hang on for draws to minnows.  O'Neill in 2014 set out for a draw in Tbilisi. TOD today said to him after the game ''You would have taken a draw in this fixture before the start'' and he nodded along.  did we though? I don't remember the football been that good under Mick. Holland should have battered us. Yes they should have. We were poxed that day but in general we played nice stuff.  Obviously not every single performance was good.

would weiss be a shout? Lots of experience, has georgia playing lovely football.

All you have to do is look at the possession and passing stats for that game to see how embarrassing a perform2 it was, Georgia quite literally completed 100's more passes than us. We are no team of Messi's and Ronaldo's, but we aren't that bad either. Georgia are ranked outside the top 100 in the world for a reason (hint, they're crap), yet we let them look like a good side, even without a few of their big players.... The attitude of negativity and fear is pervasive in this Irish team, and it's poisonous to our creativity.

Worst Ireland performance I've ever seen. I couldn't even be arsed going into why etc, they're not worth my time after that

The O'Shea wrote: All you have to do is look at the possession and passing stats for that game to see how embarrassing a perform2 it was, Georgia quite literally completed 100's more passes than us. We are no team of Messi's and Ronaldo's, but we aren't that bad either. Georgia are ranked outside the top 100 in the world for a reason (hint, they're crap), yet we let them look like a good side, even without a few of their big players.... The attitude of negativity and fear is pervasive in this Irish team, and it's poisonous to our creativity.

According to Uefa:

                                Georgia     Ireland
passing accuracy       93%             79%
Passes attempted      608               192
Passes completed       568               152


What a joke

Stickittotheman wrote: Wales drew at home with Georgia so they are not no hopers by any stretch. However it was the manner of that performance that was the problem and its been happening way to often. Woeful against Wales, Poor against Austria and almost shameful against Georgia. Big big improvement needed. However a win on tuesday night and we are top of the group. Then home to Moldova things look a hell of a lot different.

If they aren't no hopers, why are they 5th seeds and ranked 112 in the world?

Beat the Scots there in the last campaign. Can see them taking something off the Welsh next month.

I remember Mick playing away games with Cascarino (about 37 at the time) playing up front on his own away from home. We always say Ireland should be playing better football but the reality is that any manager who we have has felt that keeping it tight and hoping to get something from a set piece/on the break is the best way forward. Tonight was very disappointing but the tactics are similar to they've always been. Take it for what it is, the football is never pretty but it is what it is. I for one can't wait for a tense /stressful but hopefully positive result on Tuesday. We're never going to play like Spain, you may as well get over it and enjoy the fact that we still seem to be able to put it up to teams that are technically much superior than us in the big games

The O'Shea wrote: All you have to do is look at the possession and passing stats for that game to see how embarrassing a perform2 it was, Georgia quite literally completed 100's more passes than us. We are no team of Messi's and Ronaldo's, but we aren't that bad either. Georgia are ranked outside the top 100 in the world for a reason (hint, they're crap), yet we let them look like a good side, even without a few of their big players.... The attitude of negativity and fear is pervasive in this Irish team, and it's poisonous to our creativity.

spot on

The O'Shea wrote: coyne wrote: The O'Shea wrote: Stickittotheman wrote: Wales drew at home with Georgia so they are not no hopers by any stretch. However it was the manner of that performance that was the problem and its been happening way to often. Woeful against Wales, Poor against Austria and almost shameful against Georgia. Big big improvement needed. However a win on tuesday night and we are top of the group. Then home to Moldova things look a hell of a lot different. If they aren't no hopers, why are they 5th seeds and ranked 112 in the world? Naive way of looking at it. They battered Serbia in Tbilisi too worse than they battered us today. Serbia cheated a penalty out of them and literally robbed 3 points. I said it on page 1 of this thread before it got merged with another thread, they are a rapidly improving side and it showed when they were full of confidence. However, our best is far better than their best so it's no excuse for a result like this. Naive? That's the reality of the situation. If you win or draw matches you climb the rankings, yet Georgia don't climb the rankings.... They struggle to score and cannot defend (ie. the two most important facets of the game) and are therefore a very poor football team.

Edited by coyne - 02 Sep 2017 at 9:24pm