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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:31pm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:38pm
Safe to say this isn't the reaction he expected LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:49pm
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Safe to say this isn't the reaction he expected LOL
There is no way he didn't expect some baclash. Not even Jacob Rees-Mogg is that out of touch!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 7:09pm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:36pm
Ah lads he had to write that. It was the only way to get his passport back. 😂. Incredible 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 12:16am
Originally posted by bannerboy95 bannerboy95 wrote:

Hi lads, recently returned back from a week long visit to Qatar. Visited some of the World Cup stadia, facilities along with the Aspire Academy and meeting with the commercial director of PSG amongst other things. Prior to visiting I was very apprehensive obviously because of what had been purported in the media. Having returned however I can only say I have been blown away from the experience as a whole. Naturally not everything is running smoothly behind the scenes but it is nowhere near as what we are led to believe.
 
I have written a blog post on the week's events. Attached below is part one. Please feel free to offer feedback I hope it's a good insight as to the country itself and what they have planned in accordance with 2022. Any questions you have please ask, I am only excited to offer any useful insights I may have and elaborate on my experience. Thanks.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 12:19am
Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by bannerboy95 bannerboy95 wrote:

Hi lads, recently returned back from a week long visit to Qatar. Visited some of the World Cup stadia, facilities along with the Aspire Academy and meeting with the commercial director of PSG amongst other things. Prior to visiting I was very apprehensive obviously because of what had been purported in the media. Having returned however I can only say I have been blown away from the experience as a whole. Naturally not everything is running smoothly behind the scenes but it is nowhere near as what we are led to believe.
 
I have written a blog post on the week's events. Attached below is part one. Please feel free to offer feedback I hope it's a good insight as to the country itself and what they have planned in accordance with 2022. Any questions you have please ask, I am only excited to offer any useful insights I may have and elaborate on my experience. Thanks.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 8:26am
Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by bannerboy95 bannerboy95 wrote:


Hi lads, recently returned back from a week long visit to Qatar. Visited some of the World Cup stadia, facilities along with the Aspire Academy and meeting with the commercial director of PSG amongst other things. Prior to visiting I was very apprehensive obviously because of what had been purported in the media. Having returned however I can only say I have been blown away from the experience as a whole. Naturally not everything is running smoothly behind the scenes but it is nowhere near as what we are led to believe.
 
I have written a blog post on the week's events. Attached below is part one. Please feel free to offer feedback I hope it's a good insight as to the country itself and what they have planned in accordance with 2022. Any questions you have please ask, I am only excited to offer any useful insights I may have and elaborate on my experience. Thanks.
 
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 8:31am
"Fast forward one week and many including yours truly have had our questions answered emphatically. A week dedicated to visiting and inspecting World Cup stadia & facilities which shouted superfluous propaganda was anything but"

This is my favourite part, I'd imagine the Nazi's showed people around Auschtwitz and made it look like Club Tropicana
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 8:44am
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 9:30am
must say I'm only going off what I observed in the week I spent in Qatar. In hindsight I'm just a modern football fan and a student so yes I'm naive and on reflection the post was insensitive. I was writing a second blog detailing the rest of our trip including our visit to Al-Bayt stadium which is still heavily under construction. Upon arrival we were greeted by somewhat 30 workers buses. To say they weren't of high standard was putting it mildly. That aside there was nothing else un ordinary regarding the site. The most off putting thing we witnessed all week crossing the city where one apartment was being constructed on the second floor there was a lack of noticeable scaffolding with several workers on the second floor.


The workers deaths are inexcusable. There have been three on site fatalities so far since construction commenced a few years ago. This issue was raised with the supreme committee. Their response was that this was due to the negligence of contractors early on in the construction stages along with mega ambition to construct 7/8 state of the art stadiums in such a limited time frame. Still no excuse. The issue of recruitment fees was also raised . There have been numerous stories of how workers from India , Nepal , Sri Lanka have left home paying hundreds if not a thousand to work in preparation for 2022. The supreme committee have said this issue has been resolved and any contractor found to be continuing with this form of extortion will be reprimanded. We were told how one of the stadiums was temporarily shut down as a result .


Before our trip we were expected to visit two of the labour camps in question however on arrival this fell through. We did however pass by two , one in Lusail and one to the south of Doha. Driving around the perimeter they weren't exactly the ritz but were not lacking with amenities either. Two of the workers we'd spoken with had described the accommodation as "sufficient" and the other "good". There are plans to regenerate the new suburban areas around lusail and co with new apartment buildings which will be a significant improvement on their current accommodation. In The shopping mall we encountered many workers in their overalls grabbing lunch some with their families. This was very much in contradiction to what many other media outlets have been suggesting.


I was very interested in hearing what they have planned as regards csr as before I was apprehensive given many big European teams and federations see it as a token gesture. However having met several of the people impacted by the programs my mind was swayed . Several of the initiatives we saw such as the workers Cup and the generation amazing programme were impressive. Speaking to a few of the participants they all said they were happy with life in Qatar and  that there has been noticeable improvements since they've begun working. The few I met have families back in India and Pakistan and said the negatives was being so far away from home but the money they could repatriate home made it somewhat worth it. The Josoor Institute who head up the CSR operations contribute huge sums and resources to the development of third world countries in Africa and Asia along with giving many the chance to a first class education which they would not receive otherwise. In the local community they do extensive work with the disadvantaged and have made significant strides in the women's game.



Once again I'm only discussing what I observed . Apologies for the insensitivity, I'm just going by the access and insight which we received over there. Obviously there is a lot of non football related stuff happening at the moment contributing such as the blockade , the Qatari departure from OPEC and the recent news regarding their commitment to investing in the German economy. So it's obviously impossible to paint a true picture as to what is happening behind the scenes. Things are nowhere near perfect over in Qatar but they are far better than what I expected. My post meant to serve as just my own experience in Qatar, those with better access and knowledge would probably hold a different judgement to my own. There's a lot they have yet to do but having talked with several of the workers and people involved they are taking action and heading in the right direction. I think it has all the makings of being a great tournament with out of this world stadiums and facilities but yes this shouldn't be at the expense of the workers involved. I was very cynical of what was unfolding prior to our trip now just less so.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 9:35am
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 9:53am
Originally posted by the_walls the_walls wrote:

Originally posted by bannerboy95 bannerboy95 wrote:

Hi lads, recently returned back from a week long visit to Qatar. Visited some of the World Cup stadia, facilities along with the Aspire Academy and meeting with the commercial director of PSG amongst other things. Prior to visiting I was very apprehensive obviously because of what had been purported in the media. Having returned however I can only say I have been blown away from the experience as a whole. Naturally not everything is running smoothly behind the scenes but it is nowhere near as what we are led to believe.
 
I have written a blog post on the week's events. Attached below is part one. Please feel free to offer feedback I hope it's a good insight as to the country itself and what they have planned in accordance with 2022. Any questions you have please ask, I am only excited to offer any useful insights I may have and elaborate on my experience. Thanks.
 
 

They could organise the greatest World Cup ever seen and everyone visiting could have a brilliant time. It still doesn't take away from the fact that it is a theocratic, absolute monarchy where people can be flogged for having consensual sex with someone they are not married to, where you can be executed for engaging in homosexual activity or being an apostate from Islam, where if you are a woman who has been raped you can end up in prison for "fornication" and need to have 4 Muslim men to testify that they witnessed the rape to avoid jail, where you can be imprisoned for blasphemy. I'm sure there is plenty I've left out. 

That's before you get onto their use of actual slaves to build their stadiums. You don't address the conditions of the workers or the conditions they live and work in. You devoted one line about the reported death toll among the workers and that was just to state how your hosts told you that the number was grossly exaggerated. I'm sure a bunch of people who have no problem using slave labour wouldn't lie about something like that. 
So is that a yes that you’ll be going over LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 10:11am
Originally posted by the_walls the_walls wrote:

Originally posted by bannerboy95 bannerboy95 wrote:

Hi lads, recently returned back from a week long visit to Qatar. Visited some of the World Cup stadia, facilities along with the Aspire Academy and meeting with the commercial director of PSG amongst other things. Prior to visiting I was very apprehensive obviously because of what had been purported in the media. Having returned however I can only say I have been blown away from the experience as a whole. Naturally not everything is running smoothly behind the scenes but it is nowhere near as what we are led to believe.
 
I have written a blog post on the week's events. Attached below is part one. Please feel free to offer feedback I hope it's a good insight as to the country itself and what they have planned in accordance with 2022. Any questions you have please ask, I am only excited to offer any useful insights I may have and elaborate on my experience. Thanks.
 
 

They could organise the greatest World Cup ever seen and everyone visiting could have a brilliant time. It still doesn't take away from the fact that it is a theocratic, absolute monarchy where people can be flogged for having consensual sex with someone they are not married to, where you can be executed for engaging in homosexual activity or being an apostate from Islam, where if you are a woman who has been raped you can end up in prison for "fornication" and need to have 4 Muslim men to testify that they witnessed the rape to avoid jail, where you can be imprisoned for blasphemy. I'm sure there is plenty I've left out. 

That's before you get onto their use of actual slaves to build their stadiums. You don't address the conditions of the workers or the conditions they live and work in. You devoted one line about the reported death toll among the workers and that was just to state how your hosts told you that the number was grossly exaggerated. I'm sure a bunch of people who have no problem using slave labour wouldn't lie about something like that. 

what about attempting to finger the box off a fellow YBIG'er Mrs? Can you be flogged for that? 
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