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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

I cant believe some fellas on here. If we qualify for a playoff we wont have another friendly til March '17.

Playing in fromt of 60k on Thursday is a lot better experience for younger lads than playing in fromt of 15k in the empty vessle that is the 'Aviva'.

Championship has been over for 3 weeks, if anything, we havent organised enough friendlies. If we do the iob in competitive matches we neednt worry about rankings.

Roll on Russia

If we qualify we a play off we won't be seeded because of this game which means a lot likelier chance of every player not getting a chance to play in a World Cup

But sure that's grand because some young lads get a run out in America


And we all know that the young lads getting a run out isn't the reason this friendly was arranged. Pity we didn't play Brazil away in a friendly.
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Originally posted by Lenny82 Lenny82 wrote:

Is it bad for the rankings even if we win?

It can be. Depending on the ranking of the game displaced by a friendly.
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going with 3 at the back for this game. I think this could work out well for us as it gives us an extra midfielder which hopsfully will give Hoolihan or O Kane that extra bit of space.
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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

I cant believe some fellas on here. If we qualify for a playoff we wont have another friendly til March '17.

Playing in fromt of 60k on Thursday is a lot better experience for younger lads than playing in fromt of 15k in the empty vessle that is the 'Aviva'.

Championship has been over for 3 weeks, if anything, we havent organised enough friendlies. If we do the iob in competitive matches we neednt worry about rankings.

Roll on Russia

If we qualify we a play off we won't be seeded because of this game which means a lot likelier chance of every player not getting a chance to play in a World Cup

But sure that's grand because some young lads get a run out in America


Maybe you should send your CV in to the FAI for MON's job,

He seemed very happy on the telly about the trip, and remember he is judged on qualification.

Some people have the view of having the best possible preparation for the Austria game and targeting winning the group.

You seem resigned to a 2nd place finish and worry about the play off seedings. 


As Pipkin points out its far better for the "B" team to have a proper match in front of a bug crowd to see how they handle the pressure.

IMO this group is far more winnable then a play off.
 
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It's a head of sports analysis job they need, mon's job isn't data analysis of friendlies. Regardless of whether you think we'll win the group or not there's a very realistic chance of a play off and it's crazy to jeopardise the ranking for this for minimal gain, a world cup is on the line.

Even if we do win the group, the ranking still affects the world cup

Wales - top seeds
Romania - top seeds

Neither were good enough to be top seeds, their game management got them there
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And as you just say, winning a plus off is already tough, winning it unseeded is even tougher
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Originally posted by killer kilbane killer kilbane wrote:

going with 3 at the back for this game. I think this could work out well for us as it gives us an extra midfielder which hopsfully will give Hoolihan or O Kane that extra bit of space.


Where u hearing this?

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It was reported in the Indo today that MON said he was strongly considering 3 at the back.  

Makes sense given there's no LB in the US squad and only one RB, Christie, who'll probably be needed next week. 
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Ah ok, my team then:

.......................Randolph
.............Egan....Duffy....Long
Christie..O'Kane...Hourihane..Gleeson..McClean (c)
........................Hoolahan
........................Murphy

Pearce for Egan at HT
Boyle for Long at HT
O'Dowda for Wes at HT

Keogh for Duffy on 70
Horgan for Gleeson on 70
McGoldrick for Murph on 70

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Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

I cant believe some fellas on here. If we qualify for a playoff we wont have another friendly til March '17.

Playing in fromt of 60k on Thursday is a lot better experience for younger lads than playing in fromt of 15k in the empty vessle that is the 'Aviva'.

Championship has been over for 3 weeks, if anything, we havent organised enough friendlies. If we do the iob in competitive matches we neednt worry about rankings.

Roll on Russia

If we qualify we a play off we won't be seeded because of this game which means a lot likelier chance of every player not getting a chance to play in a World Cup

But sure that's grand because some young lads get a run out in America


We should never play friendlies so with that in mind. Friendlies are an eye sore and the death knell was that England friendly a couple of years ago when nothing happened for 90 minutes inside a full house. But they are essential for lads getting experience as all national managers especially O Neill dont trust players to be thrown straight in regardless of club form. Look at McClean when he should have started in the euros 5 years ago. And Horgan should have at least made a sub appearance in Austria - granted we still won so didnt matter but thats a recent example.

Instead we had Cox in Poland and McGeady in Austria who played due to their experience rather than form.

You cant claim that a manager is going to go in to a competitive match and start a rake of youngsters with no experience. What happened in San Marino the last time that happened? So yes these matches are required.
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Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

I cant believe some fellas on here. If we qualify for a playoff we wont have another friendly til March '17.

Playing in fromt of 60k on Thursday is a lot better experience for younger lads than playing in fromt of 15k in the empty vessle that is the 'Aviva'.

Championship has been over for 3 weeks, if anything, we havent organised enough friendlies. If we do the iob in competitive matches we neednt worry about rankings.

Roll on Russia

If we qualify we a play off we won't be seeded because of this game which means a lot likelier chance of every player not getting a chance to play in a World Cup

But sure that's grand because some young lads get a run out in America


We should never play friendlies so with that in mind. Friendlies are an eye sore and the death knell was that England friendly a couple of years ago when nothing happened for 90 minutes inside a full house. But they are essential for lads getting experience as all national managers especially O Neill dont trust players to be thrown straight in regardless of club form. Look at McClean when he should have started in the euros 5 years ago. And Horgan should have at least made a sub appearance in Austria - granted we still won so didnt matter but thats a recent example.

Instead we had Cox in Poland and McGeady in Austria who played due to their experience rather than form.

You cant claim that a manager is going to go in to a competitive match and start a rake of youngsters with no experience. What happened in San Marino the last time that happened? So yes these matches are required.


McGeady was arguably our most in form player against Austria. And he was more creative in the few mins he was on the pitch than any other player.

Horgan doesn't start for Preston any more, and hasn't done in a while now.



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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

I cant believe some fellas on here. If we qualify for a playoff we wont have another friendly til March '17.

Playing in fromt of 60k on Thursday is a lot better experience for younger lads than playing in fromt of 15k in the empty vessle that is the 'Aviva'.

Championship has been over for 3 weeks, if anything, we havent organised enough friendlies. If we do the iob in competitive matches we neednt worry about rankings.

Roll on Russia

If we qualify we a play off we won't be seeded because of this game which means a lot likelier chance of every player not getting a chance to play in a World Cup

But sure that's grand because some young lads get a run out in America


We should never play friendlies so with that in mind. Friendlies are an eye sore and the death knell was that England friendly a couple of years ago when nothing happened for 90 minutes inside a full house. But they are essential for lads getting experience as all national managers especially O Neill dont trust players to be thrown straight in regardless of club form. Look at McClean when he should have started in the euros 5 years ago. And Horgan should have at least made a sub appearance in Austria - granted we still won so didnt matter but thats a recent example.

Instead we had Cox in Poland and McGeady in Austria who played due to their experience rather than form.

You cant claim that a manager is going to go in to a competitive match and start a rake of youngsters with no experience. What happened in San Marino the last time that happened? So yes these matches are required.


McGeady was arguably our most in form player against Austria. And he was more creative in the few mins he was on the pitch than any other player.

Horgan doesn't start for Preston any more, and hasn't done in a while now.





At the time, Horgan was jumping through hoops in Europe. One thing also about Horgan is that you can pose no questions over his commitment to the squad unlike McGeady who has cried out of 2 of the last 3 friendlies - this one and Oman with no hint of an injury.
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Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

I cant believe some fellas on here. If we qualify for a playoff we wont have another friendly til March '17.

Playing in fromt of 60k on Thursday is a lot better experience for younger lads than playing in fromt of 15k in the empty vessle that is the 'Aviva'.

Championship has been over for 3 weeks, if anything, we havent organised enough friendlies. If we do the iob in competitive matches we neednt worry about rankings.

Roll on Russia

If we qualify we a play off we won't be seeded because of this game which means a lot likelier chance of every player not getting a chance to play in a World Cup

But sure that's grand because some young lads get a run out in America


We should never play friendlies so with that in mind. Friendlies are an eye sore and the death knell was that England friendly a couple of years ago when nothing happened for 90 minutes inside a full house. But they are essential for lads getting experience as all national managers especially O Neill dont trust players to be thrown straight in regardless of club form. Look at McClean when he should have started in the euros 5 years ago. And Horgan should have at least made a sub appearance in Austria - granted we still won so didnt matter but thats a recent example.

Instead we had Cox in Poland and McGeady in Austria who played due to their experience rather than form.

You cant claim that a manager is going to go in to a competitive match and start a rake of youngsters with no experience. What happened in San Marino the last time that happened? So yes these matches are required.


McGeady was arguably our most in form player against Austria. And he was more creative in the few mins he was on the pitch than any other player.

Horgan doesn't start for Preston any more, and hasn't done in a while now.





At the time, Horgan was jumping through hoops in Europe. One thing also about Horgan is that you can pose no questions over his commitment to the squad unlike McGeady who has cried out of 2 of the last 3 friendlies - this one and Oman with no hint of an injury.


Is that a joke? A man who endured dogs abuse for years for choosing to play for us....
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by nvidic nvidic wrote:

Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

I cant believe some fellas on here. If we qualify for a playoff we wont have another friendly til March '17.

Playing in fromt of 60k on Thursday is a lot better experience for younger lads than playing in fromt of 15k in the empty vessle that is the 'Aviva'.

Championship has been over for 3 weeks, if anything, we havent organised enough friendlies. If we do the iob in competitive matches we neednt worry about rankings.

Roll on Russia

If we qualify we a play off we won't be seeded because of this game which means a lot likelier chance of every player not getting a chance to play in a World Cup

But sure that's grand because some young lads get a run out in America


We should never play friendlies so with that in mind. Friendlies are an eye sore and the death knell was that England friendly a couple of years ago when nothing happened for 90 minutes inside a full house. But they are essential for lads getting experience as all national managers especially O Neill dont trust players to be thrown straight in regardless of club form. Look at McClean when he should have started in the euros 5 years ago. And Horgan should have at least made a sub appearance in Austria - granted we still won so didnt matter but thats a recent example.

Instead we had Cox in Poland and McGeady in Austria who played due to their experience rather than form.

You cant claim that a manager is going to go in to a competitive match and start a rake of youngsters with no experience. What happened in San Marino the last time that happened? So yes these matches are required.


McGeady was arguably our most in form player against Austria. And he was more creative in the few mins he was on the pitch than any other player.

Horgan doesn't start for Preston any more, and hasn't done in a while now.





At the time, Horgan was jumping through hoops in Europe. One thing also about Horgan is that you can pose no questions over his commitment to the squad unlike McGeady who has cried out of 2 of the last 3 friendlies - this one and Oman with no hint of an injury.


Is that a joke? A man who endured dogs abuse for years for choosing to play for us....

Pipkin doesn't like McGeady. End of story. Nothing to see here. Move on. 

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