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Decent enough squad.
We're decent enough..
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Yes, good squad  Clap A lot of lads with plenty of Championship or SPL experience there.   Most experienced U21 squad we've had for a while.  

Only omission you might question would be the boy Ronan Hale, who seems to have great potential.  However he's not yet made his league debut for Birmingham, so fair enough.  
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Thought Trevor Clarke would be included
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Any reason why Conor Shaughnessy isn't involved?
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Very long trip. Interesting to see how many pick up an injury playing for their club before hand
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Originally posted by NewtNewbie NewtNewbie wrote:

Any reason why Conor Shaughnessy isn't involved?

Noel King is an absolute clown
"Here's Robbie Keane...... yeeeessss! That is no more than Ireland deserve!"
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I wish all these young lads luck and hope they have great careers for their sake and hopefully Ireland's but they day I actually care about the U21's is the take Noel King is unemployed. Absolute clown.
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Its nice how they pick a couple of token irishmen to fill out these squads Clap
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Five Irish born in the whole squad. Pathetic
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The usual with Kings squads. Picks below average English born instead of Irish born lads . Bizzare to say the least.
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If we lose can King then be given his marching orders? The results are actually getting worse which is the scary thing as we have had some stinkers the last few years.
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I thought i had just wandered into Fossett's circus here by mistake, the amount of fckin clowns holy jaysus
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Meanwhile on another thread the lads and bitching and moaning because a certain English born player is not included in the squad

It will be interesting to see how Rice plays....



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Originally posted by Cathalthesmart Cathalthesmart wrote:

If we lose can King then be given his marching orders? The results are actually getting worse which is the scary thing as we have had some stinkers the last few years.
The thing is though the FAI really don't seem to be remotely bothered by the results and development of players, as any other country in the competition is.
The under-21 set up is a mechanism for tying as many english youngsters in to the irish system for as long as possible as an insurance in case they turn out to be any good. That is Noel King's sole remit as under-21 manager and in that respect this employers will perceive that he is doing a swell job.
That is the mentality of the federation that runs our national football set up unfortunately and there are all to many Ireland  fans who buy in to that mentality all too readily.
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Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:

Originally posted by Cathalthesmart Cathalthesmart wrote:

If we lose can King then be given his marching orders? The results are actually getting worse which is the scary thing as we have had some stinkers the last few years.

The thing is though the FAI really don't seem to be remotely bothered by the results and development of players, as any other country in the competition is.
The under-21 set up is a mechanism for tying as many english youngsters in to the irish system for as long as possible as an insurance in case they turn out to be any good. That is Noel King's sole remit as under-21 manager and in that respect this employers will perceive that he is doing a swell job.
That is the mentality of the federation that runs our national football set up unfortunately and there are all to many Ireland  fans who buy in to that mentality all too readily.


How do you know this is the FAI remit.

What Irish players should have been chosen against the English based players?

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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Conan Conan wrote:

Originally posted by Cathalthesmart Cathalthesmart wrote:

If we lose can King then be given his marching orders? The results are actually getting worse which is the scary thing as we have had some stinkers the last few years.

The thing is though the FAI really don't seem to be remotely bothered by the results and development of players, as any other country in the competition is.
The under-21 set up is a mechanism for tying as many english youngsters in to the irish system for as long as possible as an insurance in case they turn out to be any good. That is Noel King's sole remit as under-21 manager and in that respect this employers will perceive that he is doing a swell job.
That is the mentality of the federation that runs our national football set up unfortunately and there are all to many Ireland  fans who buy in to that mentality all too readily.


How do you know this is the FAI remit.

What Irish players should have been chosen against the English based players?



I don't know what King's remit is but Conor Dimaio cannot get a start for Chesterfield. Same for Kinsella at Walsall. Trevor Clarke is a talent and was superb for our u-19s last year.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

 


How do you know this is the FAI remit.

What Irish players should have been chosen against the English based players?

If you look at our under-21 squads from the last several years it is usually three quarters english players and mainly from under-23 squads and players in lower division squads who rarely amount to anything.
Put this together with the FAI's satisfaction with the mediocrity of our performances and results over as long as you can remember (thinking nicking a win against Andorra is a great triumph) and the persistence with Noel King in charge, and the fact that Noel King is also in charge of British player recruitment and is judged and incentivised by how many english youngsters he can get capped in ROI squads.
Then think of the meticulous dedication to unearthing grandparental connections of kids at english academies and contrast this with the pitiful neglect of player and club development on these shores and its clear they are putting all their eggs in the granny rule basket.
Other associations look to improve the quality of their national team by investing effort, time and resources in to developing youth football within their jurisdiction. Belgium is a great example of a country that has turned around their fortunes by doing just this.
The FAI on the other hand think it is easier to just tap up as many players as they can get hold of from a neighbour who has this structure in place.
This is ethically dubious, lazy and parasitic and it is also unfair on the irish born kids who get neglected as a result and denied the opportunity to represent their country in favour of players from abroad who couldn't get in their own national age group squad. 
Also if a bunch of mediocre english players who can't get anywhere near qualifying for the under-21 finals ever are so much better than the best Ireland can produce then there's something seriously wrong with the development of young players in this country. That isn't going to change until the mindset of Irish football and its governors changes.
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Lol!
 
https://twitter.com/dimaio31/status/902193163858796544 - https://twitter.com/dimaio31/status/902193163858796544
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