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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Didn't see the penalty incident on the Portugal-Chile game, but when the Russia-Mexico game was stopped to run a penalty appeal by the video, the saddos complained it took too long to reach the right decision, which was no change. If it takes 5 seconds or 5 minutes that's fine, we have the right decision however long it takes.

As usual, Ronaldo elected to go fifth to get all the glory, when the usual custom is to put your best spot kick takers first for obvious reasons. Going fifth for Real Madrid is fine when there are 4 other takers with similar ability, but Portugal don't have that luxury. The first taker may not have the glory of the last, but this is a team sport, and the first kick is every bit as important as the last.


I think the difference it that was that the ball went out of play in the Port-Chile game in Russia - Mexico it didn't the Mexico counter attacked and could have probably scored it was a good 30-40 seconds before it was brought back.

In Portugal vs Chile it went out of play and it was a good minute before play resumed with the goal kick.
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Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Didn't see the penalty incident on the Portugal-Chile game, but when the Russia-Mexico game was stopped to run a penalty appeal by the video, the saddos complained it took too long to reach the right decision, which was no change. If it takes 5 seconds or 5 minutes that's fine, we have the right decision however long it takes.

As usual, Ronaldo elected to go fifth to get all the glory, when the usual custom is to put your best spot kick takers first for obvious reasons. Going fifth for Real Madrid is fine when there are 4 other takers with similar ability, but Portugal don't have that luxury. The first taker may not have the glory of the last, but this is a team sport, and the first kick is every bit as important as the last.
You and Bronze have hit the nail on the head - a true captain/leader would put his ego to one side for the sake of the team and go first to give the following penalty takers a lift, especially if, as you say, the team's not exactly overloaded with top class players and assured penalty takers like his club are. If he had this type of attribute, there would be no argument about who is the best in the world.
ehhh I said he was right to go 5th as it is often the pressure kick!Personally in a peno shoot out I like to go 2nd if not first. If you score your first and they miss there's a lot less pressure on the second taker!
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Ronaldo took first penalty against Poland in the Euros, any other player and this wouldn't even be up for discussion.
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Didn't see the penalty incident on the Portugal-Chile game, but when the Russia-Mexico game was stopped to run a penalty appeal by the video, the saddos complained it took too long to reach the right decision, which was no change. If it takes 5 seconds or 5 minutes that's fine, we have the right decision however long it takes.

As usual, Ronaldo elected to go fifth to get all the glory, when the usual custom is to put your best spot kick takers first for obvious reasons. Going fifth for Real Madrid is fine when there are 4 other takers with similar ability, but Portugal don't have that luxury. The first taker may not have the glory of the last, but this is a team sport, and the first kick is every bit as important as the last.


I think the difference it that was that the ball went out of play in the Port-Chile game in Russia - Mexico it didn't the Mexico counter attacked and could have probably scored it was a good 30-40 seconds before it was brought back.

In Portugal vs Chile it went out of play and it was a good minute before play resumed with the goal kick.


Comparing Real to Portugal.

"....similar ability, Portugal don't have that luxury".

In fairness Portugal are Euro 2016 champions, they even won a penalty shootout along the way, scoring 5/5.
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Joke. Only a yellow for Jara despite using VAR
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And stopping the game for nearly five minutes.
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Joke. Only a yellow for Jara despite using VAR
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VAR has proven to be more headline grabbing than Mike Riley, he won't be about this at all. I expect Mike to be thinking of new ways next season to grab his former crown.
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Its so farcical i cant find the words to express my feelings on it.
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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Joke. Only a yellow for Jara despite using VAR
unbelievable


If they think the elbow was intentional it has to be red.
It's red or nothing.

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How was there only 5 minutes added on? There was 4 minutes on the Jara incident alone! Fair play to Lee Dixon for stating the obvious and calling it what it is.
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Really enjoyed the tournament. Roll on 2018.

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