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Joke. Only a yellow for Jara despite using VAR
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And stopping the game for nearly five minutes.
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Didn't see the penalty incident on the Portugal-Chile game, but when the Russia-Mexico game was stopped to run a penalty appeal by the video, the saddos complained it took too long to reach the right decision, which was no change. If it takes 5 seconds or 5 minutes that's fine, we have the right decision however long it takes.

As usual, Ronaldo elected to go fifth to get all the glory, when the usual custom is to put your best spot kick takers first for obvious reasons. Going fifth for Real Madrid is fine when there are 4 other takers with similar ability, but Portugal don't have that luxury. The first taker may not have the glory of the last, but this is a team sport, and the first kick is every bit as important as the last.


I think the difference it that was that the ball went out of play in the Port-Chile game in Russia - Mexico it didn't the Mexico counter attacked and could have probably scored it was a good 30-40 seconds before it was brought back.

In Portugal vs Chile it went out of play and it was a good minute before play resumed with the goal kick.


Comparing Real to Portugal.

"....similar ability, Portugal don't have that luxury".

In fairness Portugal are Euro 2016 champions, they even won a penalty shootout along the way, scoring 5/5.
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Ronaldo took first penalty against Poland in the Euros, any other player and this wouldn't even be up for discussion.
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Originally posted by ConorMac77 ConorMac77 wrote:

Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Didn't see the penalty incident on the Portugal-Chile game, but when the Russia-Mexico game was stopped to run a penalty appeal by the video, the saddos complained it took too long to reach the right decision, which was no change. If it takes 5 seconds or 5 minutes that's fine, we have the right decision however long it takes.

As usual, Ronaldo elected to go fifth to get all the glory, when the usual custom is to put your best spot kick takers first for obvious reasons. Going fifth for Real Madrid is fine when there are 4 other takers with similar ability, but Portugal don't have that luxury. The first taker may not have the glory of the last, but this is a team sport, and the first kick is every bit as important as the last.
You and Bronze have hit the nail on the head - a true captain/leader would put his ego to one side for the sake of the team and go first to give the following penalty takers a lift, especially if, as you say, the team's not exactly overloaded with top class players and assured penalty takers like his club are. If he had this type of attribute, there would be no argument about who is the best in the world.
ehhh I said he was right to go 5th as it is often the pressure kick!Personally in a peno shoot out I like to go 2nd if not first. If you score your first and they miss there's a lot less pressure on the second taker!
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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Didn't see the penalty incident on the Portugal-Chile game, but when the Russia-Mexico game was stopped to run a penalty appeal by the video, the saddos complained it took too long to reach the right decision, which was no change. If it takes 5 seconds or 5 minutes that's fine, we have the right decision however long it takes.

As usual, Ronaldo elected to go fifth to get all the glory, when the usual custom is to put your best spot kick takers first for obvious reasons. Going fifth for Real Madrid is fine when there are 4 other takers with similar ability, but Portugal don't have that luxury. The first taker may not have the glory of the last, but this is a team sport, and the first kick is every bit as important as the last.


I think the difference it that was that the ball went out of play in the Port-Chile game in Russia - Mexico it didn't the Mexico counter attacked and could have probably scored it was a good 30-40 seconds before it was brought back.

In Portugal vs Chile it went out of play and it was a good minute before play resumed with the goal kick.
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by GB 1HughJarse GB 1HughJarse wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Talking about Ronaldo he has now left the Portugal camp to be with his newly born twins from a surrogate mother.

That's his second time having kids via surrogate I know he has a girlfriend but I seriously have a feeling that Ol' Cristiano prefers to play in the mud rather then the blood. Wink



What a post, welcome back to the Dark Ages.
"prefers to play in the mud"
There's a job for you with the DUP somewhere.


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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Didn't see the penalty incident on the Portugal-Chile game, but when the Russia-Mexico game was stopped to run a penalty appeal by the video, the saddos complained it took too long to reach the right decision, which was no change. If it takes 5 seconds or 5 minutes that's fine, we have the right decision however long it takes.

As usual, Ronaldo elected to go fifth to get all the glory, when the usual custom is to put your best spot kick takers first for obvious reasons. Going fifth for Real Madrid is fine when there are 4 other takers with similar ability, but Portugal don't have that luxury. The first taker may not have the glory of the last, but this is a team sport, and the first kick is every bit as important as the last.
You and Bronze have hit the nail on the head - a true captain/leader would put his ego to one side for the sake of the team and go first to give the following penalty takers a lift, especially if, as you say, the team's not exactly overloaded with top class players and assured penalty takers like his club are. If he had this type of attribute, there would be no argument about who is the best in the world.
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Even if Ronaldo had gone first and scored, the other 3 penalties were awful - they'd still have lost 3-1.

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Didn't see the penalty incident on the Portugal-Chile game, but when the Russia-Mexico game was stopped to run a penalty appeal by the video, the saddos complained it took too long to reach the right decision, which was no change. If it takes 5 seconds or 5 minutes that's fine, we have the right decision however long it takes.

As usual, Ronaldo elected to go fifth to get all the glory, when the usual custom is to put your best spot kick takers first for obvious reasons. Going fifth for Real Madrid is fine when there are 4 other takers with similar ability, but Portugal don't have that luxury. The first taker may not have the glory of the last, but this is a team sport, and the first kick is every bit as important as the last.
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The 5th is generally the pressure kick so fair play to him for saving himself for that one. Don't like the man but has had some careerClap People seem to jump on his back over every little thing
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by rolo rolo wrote:


U sure?
Still inexcusable that they risked not having him take one.
 
LOL
FFS it was the confederations cup.
 
Suppose you're on tenterhooks anticipating the start of the Emirates Cup in a few weeks?

Dont get that point at all. He's given up two weeks of his summer to go to Russia, and he's scored goals over there like he wanted to win it. He wanted to win the trophy. 

To just shrug your shoulders and say well it was irrelevant is missing the point. It's shirking the discussion. 

Especially because he has done this before in an important game, the semi final of Euro 2012. Inexcusable that he didnt take a penalty in that shootout in 2012. Clearly hasn't learned.


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Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:


We have had many variants of the same discussion on here over the years. 

1) Yes, Ronaldo is a superb player. It's fair to call him a true great at this stage.
2) Yes, he is an egomaniac and wants all the limelight.
3) He leads by example through the level of his performances. 
4) He is a total penis
I think if you are going to be the world's most arrogant man then you need a personality to boot, preferably with flaws. Egotism and boring brilliance are never a great match. 
I have grown to like him over the years, I am not a believer in charity myself but you have to appreciate someone who is trying to do good and he has been great to watch as a player, on and off the ball.
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