When can we expect a statement ...

DUBLIN DOC wrote: Newryrep wrote: DUBLIN DOC wrote: Rumours abound that a certain supporters club harvested quiet an amount of tickets for this, that is a class less thing to do Says the man who railed against Chinese whispers So you are not bothered then chief, ah well not to worry roll on Wales away

Why do you insist on sh*t stirring with rumours? This causes nothing but problems, if you have facts and evidence then by all means post it. This is like primary school on certain threads, with all the crying and finger pointing. Cringeworthy from certain posters.

There were a few 100 Irish fans behind the Dugout and a other 100 or so beside the tunnel where players came out.

DUBLIN DOC wrote: Newryrep wrote: DUBLIN DOC wrote: Rumours abound that a certain supporters club harvested quiet an amount of tickets for this, that is a class less thing to do Says the man who railed against Chinese whispers So you are not bothered then chief, ah well not to worry roll on Wales away

900 odd tickets sold maybe 600 at it course there was harvesting

Feel free to pm me

How long are we going to talk in circles, the same thing over and over.

I'll join in as a simple summary for the lurkers:

- A pathetic 30% of tickets are allocated to fans (supporters clubs and independents); this needs to be increased.
- There is no transparency within the fans allocation, leading to a belief that SCs receive preferential treatment.
- The distribution process within the fans' allocation should not discriminate between SC members and independents.
- Each individual fan should have a clear record of home and away attendances; this should be the only criteria and be transparent to all.
- Spot checks of individual travel details could be performed to prevent mass ticket harvesting.

As it stands, we have a confederation of supporters clubs who represent only supporters clubs. They will never argue for an increase in the 30% allocation in case their next allocation of tickets is lessened for speaking out. The leaders also like the perks and control the current system gives them.

They are controlled to such an extent by the FAI that they allowed a statement to be released in their name that abused fellow fans.

They will never revoke this statement.

The FAI, in its current mindset, will seek to maintain control of SCs via the confederation. They want to retain 70% of tickets for the 'football family' and preferred partners and do not want to administer a transparent allocation system. The lack of transparency also ensures no accountability should there be a desire to seek or return favours, especially for glamour ties (confederation and SC leaders would of course never be left behind, it's only ordinary SC members and independents who lose out).

Conversely:

- More SC members who regularly attend matches would benefit from an increased and transparent allocation.
- A transparent system would be easier for the ticket office to administer in the long run after a small initial outlay on the type of programming that many EPL club websites use.
- Persistent begging calls for glamour ties would die out.
- Loyal and united fans would remain.
- ST sales would increase as confidence in the fairness of the system grows.
- The need to use tickets as currency would disappear.

How much was the match ticket for the game ? (Moldova)

Edited by Butch - 13 Oct 2016 at 10:38pm

SuperDave84 wrote: I've no difficulty with discounted / free tickets, based on bulk sales. Put it like this: if a club sells 200 season tickets at full price (€160 average, say) and an extra 100 tickets for the Austria and Wales games at €50 each, the total for the FAI is €37,000.... but if they get incentivised season ticket sales in bulk and sell 250 season tickets for €140 average and only 50 extras for the Austria and Wales games, that's €40,000 for the FAI. It makes sense for the FAI to encourage supporters' clubs to sell season tickets, and price reductions for bulk purchases (or the odd free ticket, if you want to look at it like that, provide that it's all clear and above board), I've no problem with it. Generally, the season tickets will be going to people who would have went to one or two games anyway, so you just have to make it worth their while to get a season ticket, and the SCs are in a great position to identify those prospective purchasers. However, I am not alone in having serious issues with one class of season ticket holder (SC bought) have priority over another class of season ticket holder (non-SC bought) for away tickets. Priority on away tickets should be a selling point for all season tickets, not for SCs. Hell, if SCs have priority over non SC members, it's not an incentive to get a season ticket, just an incentive to join an SC, which doesn't maximise FAI revenue at all. Also, anyone who goes to an away game is generally interested in going to home games, so they should be encouraged to have season tickets as a group, whether as a member of an SC or not. The current system is quite perversely encouraging a certain type of fan to give up their season tickets, which is madly counterproductive.

Edited by Newryrep - 13 Oct 2016 at 8:55pm

I've no difficulty with discounted / free tickets, based on bulk sales. Put it like this: if a club sells 200 season tickets at full price (€160 average, say) and an extra 100 tickets for the Austria and Wales games at €50 each, the total for the FAI is €37,000.... but if they get incentivised season ticket sales in bulk and sell 250 season tickets for €140 average and only 50 extras for the Austria and Wales games, that's €40,000 for the FAI. It makes sense for the FAI to encourage supporters' clubs to sell season tickets, and price reductions for bulk purchases (or the odd free ticket, if you want to look at it like that, provide that it's all clear and above board), I've no problem with it. Generally, the season tickets will be going to people who would have went to one or two games anyway, so you just have to make it worth their while to get a season ticket, and the SCs are in a great position to identify those prospective purchasers.

However, I am not alone in having serious issues with one class of season ticket holder (SC bought) have priority over another class of season ticket holder (non-SC bought) for away tickets. Priority on away tickets should be a selling point for all season tickets, not for SCs. Hell, if SCs have priority over non SC members, it's not an incentive to get a season ticket, just an incentive to join an SC, which doesn't maximise FAI revenue at all. Also, anyone who goes to an away game is generally interested in going to home games, so they should be encouraged to have season tickets as a group, whether as a member of an SC or not. The current system is quite perversely encouraging a certain type of fan to give up their season tickets, which is madly counterproductive.

There's pics on FB from The Sky Bar and they look the best of pals!

The GerK wrote: I have deleted posts there. Whether it happened or not is not the issue. Is there really a need to names names on here and carry on as if everyone is whiter than white on here? Who really gives a sh*t if they did have a bit of a row?  Stick to the serious issues like why have the confederation have not commentated on a statement, issued by the FAI on behalf of the Confederation, which slated other fans? Why the silence? Are they pushing for a fair and transparent ticketing system? Are they pushing for an increase in the pitiful 30% allocation for fans? Why did their PRO have a direct and bizarre pop at YBIG in his first newspaper interview? Has he been told to be refrain from such absurd pettiness in the future? Do some clubs get a larger ticket allocation than others? If so, why? Why are the SC members always given Players Lounge tickets? Not that I give a flying fuk but surely they should be rsevred for families and rotated every game? These are the issues. Not a fuking drunken row in Moldova.

are some clubs being given free or discounted tickets?