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Liam Brady Joined: 21 Feb 2014 Status: Offline Points: 2964 |
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If Kenny can a pull a mad one out of his hole like starting Jamie McGrath against Portugal, then Keane starting against Azerbaijan is well within the realms of possibility.
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Liam Brady Joined: 25 Aug 2021 Status: Offline Points: 1028 |
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Either way. Idah shouldn't start Horgan shouldn't play McClean shouldn't play |
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J89
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True, but one thing with McGrath was he was in the training camp over the summer and Kenny knows him going back to Dundalk. Knight and Browne were also missing from the squad. Keane is coming into his first squad and we've got no starting forwards out injured. |
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
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8 goals in 82 games at PL and Championship level, 6 of which were from open play.
1 goal in every 13 games from open play, 1 in 10 if you include penalties. Which is ironic considering someone here was criticising Hendrick for "only" having 1 in 10 from midfield. It's also disingenuous to compare Keane's present record to Scully's as Scully is 22 whereas Keane is a near 30 year old who's already proven his sh*teness at a higher level consistently in the past. O'Shea/Eoink/4-4-2/Wesley Wanderers will be delighted, though, since Mipo Odubeko's complete and utter abjectness at Huddersfield so far has given him little to get excited about.
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50%lesssugar&salt
Liam Brady Joined: 02 Sep 2017 Status: Online Points: 1285 |
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You started making a valid argument about Will Keane's record but then decided to have a go at your alter egos / arch nemesis (most of us on here can't determine which or what the relationship actually is). Why don't you just use DM, save us all having to read this sh*te?
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McG
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FAI seem to be really whoring him out on their social channels.
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It is all very strange.
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
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They really need to learn how to read a crowd. Most fans understandably have reservations about his call up because of his England caps and lack of quality.
They're just setting him up for a fall if anything.
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John Nice
Jack Charlton Joined: 10 Sep 2021 Location: Wexford Status: Offline Points: 5137 |
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No its disingenuous to refer to Keane's record at CH/PL level when he hasn't played there since 2018/19. Players can and do improve as they get older btw - Drogba, Vardy, Walters, Mc Goldrick, Daryl Murphy etc. He is 28 and since the start of the 2020/21 campaign he has 15 goals in 42 L1 games. Scully has 18 goals in 51 L1 games, Parrott has 5 in 26 L1 games (plus 0 in 11 CH games) over the same period. As pointed out by several others, Scully is a left sided forward and playing in the same position as Connolly and the position in which Robinson has played for West Brom this season. Keane and Scully have similar goals per game ratios in League 1 over the last season and a bit, but they are entirely different types of player, which may explain Keane's selection over Scully. I was surprised at Keane's inclusion, but I can see a certain logic to it - it's either brave or stupid. I was not particularly surprised at Scully's exclusion - he will get his chance in March. I have never seen either Scully or Keane play a full game - the management team have made a decision, you can lump on when and if it all goes tits up, but the faux outrage is all a bit ott tbh.
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Idah Dream!
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
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Murphy played virtually his entire career at Championship level or higher. Walters was released by a PL club as a kid and worked his way back up and stayed there. Vardy gradually worked his way up from non-league to PL level and stayed there. Keane played approx. a hundred games at Championship level or higher, looking distinctly ordinary, before finally dropping down and finally finding his level. Drogba FFS...
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John Nice
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For the record and I would share some of the reservations (primarily regarding his ability as I haven't seen him play a full match and he is a L1 player), Collins, Maguire, Hogan, Scully. Mc Goldrick, Robinson, Curtis and Aiden O'Brien were all born in England, I cant be bothered to check which of them have underage caps for England, (perhaps they weren't good enough?) but I know Robinson and Scully have.
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Idah Dream!
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kevin100
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I have never said it here as what's the point but now you mention it the FAI twitter page is cringe/drivel at the best of times it's not remotely surprising to hear it. Nothing at all against Bazunu and I get he's the new hotshot but it's a bit unfair on him to have him doing all the press conferences. He's very well spoken but he is being hyped to oblivion and god forbid the poor kid makes a mistake soon (had hairy moments the last campaign) exaggerated abuse tends to follow exaggerated praise.
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
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I'm a realist. I'm fully aware the vast majority of English-born players are playing for us because they aren't good enough to play for England. I'm referring to the average Joe you'd see commenting on 42 or Twitter. What they know of Keane is his Man Utd past, past England caps, and a brother who is a senior England intl and former Ireland intl. The FAI media team really need to look at the optics here. If it was Patrick Bamford, even the most cynical among us would have our spirits raised by a PL player who consistently scores goals at that level declaring for us. But this is 28-year-old Will Keane, who has a 1 in 13 record at Championship level. The lack of self-awareness is almost comical.
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John Nice
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I have already said it's either brave or stupid due to the optics - He played 82 games across several seasons at PL/CH level due to well documented injury problems. I have no idea if he's any good, but at 28, Daryl Murphy scored 4 in 33 in the CH for Ipswich, Mc Goldrick 5 in 30 in the CH also for Ipswich, so I dont think that is grounds for exclusion considering the current competition for a spot and his team currently sit top of L1, so he may well be a Chship striker this time next year at 29 (younger than James Collins currently who hasn't managed a goal or assist this season). The management team have clearly seen something in his game that they feel perhaps doesn't exist amongst our other limited (for various reasons) squad members - blowing his trumpet does seem a very strange thing for the FAI to do at this point, but the manager will live and die by his decisions - I just find the whole brouhaha over his selection a bit ott.
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Idah Dream!
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Greenie50
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Where? On Twitter & Instagram all I see is one post welcoming him to his first Ireland camp.
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McG
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I think there was a story or two on IG also. It just felt like they were pushing it too hard. It might just be me.
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They do it very every new call up. They'd one for each of Omobamidele, McGrath, Mandroiu, Ogbene, Szmodics in recent months. Theres no agenda.
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Green Cockade
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He did make the Man Utd first team in his teens and had a glittering future ahead of him before the injuries really kicked in. Mick encouraged him to declare for Ireland, which he has done, and Kenny has clearly seen enough to convince him he's worth a gamble. Let's just wait and see how it goes.
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