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Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Michael Keane has come out with big comments about his time with the Ireland underage setup today saying he never felt Irish and he admitted using Ireland as a stepping stone for England.

It might be the truth but why come out with those comments? It all stinks of a big PR twist by The FA's PR team


And we're considering entertaining his brother who's no doubt in the same mindset.....difference being his career went the opposite way
Really? I have come across plenty lads in England who have brothers who see themselves as different nationalities, loads of them Irish. That is a ridiculously sweeping statement.
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I'm sure his brother who just declared for Ireland is delighted with those comments.
In the 90s, Kevin Gallen (QPR) infamously refused a call up and declared for England even though both his brothers played for the Eire.
 
 
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Wayne Rooney's brother also expressed his interest in playing for Ireland once too I seem to remember.
There's a correlation developing here. The inferior brother loves the EIRE
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Wayne Rooney's brother also expressed his interest in playing for Ireland once too I seem to remember.
There's a correlation developing here. The inferior brother loves the EIRE
 
So basically we are the priesthood of international football. LOL
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Michael Keane has come out with big comments about his time with the Ireland underage setup today saying he never felt Irish and he admitted using Ireland as a stepping stone for England.

It might be the truth but why come out with those comments? It all stinks of a big PR twist by The FA's PR team


And we're considering entertaining his brother who's no doubt in the same mindset.....difference being his career went the opposite way

Really? I have come across plenty lads in England who have brothers who see themselves as different nationalities, loads of them Irish. That is a ridiculously sweeping statement.


Really, yes....there's been open minded and there's been obtuse

at the time his brother was 'using Ireland as a stepping stone' in his own words, he was playing underage for England......you don't think they ever had a 'conversation' ?

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Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Michael Keane has come out with big comments about his time with the Ireland underage setup today saying he never felt Irish and he admitted using Ireland as a stepping stone for England.

It might be the truth but why come out with those comments? It all stinks of a big PR twist by The FA's PR team


And we're considering entertaining his brother who's no doubt in the same mindset.....difference being his career went the opposite way

Really? I have come across plenty lads in England who have brothers who see themselves as different nationalities, loads of them Irish. That is a ridiculously sweeping statement.


Really, yes....there's been open minded and there's been obtuse

at the time his brother was 'using Ireland as a steeping stone' in his own words, he was playing underage for England......you don't think they ever had a 'conversation' ?
And that would be completely ruling out that people can feel both. Like most of the posts on this thread, you are viewing nationality through your own eyes only.
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Wayne Rooney's brother also expressed his interest in playing for Ireland once too I seem to remember.
There's a correlation developing here. The inferior brother loves the EIRE
 
John Rooney is an absolute ****. He's have used us a stepping stone in a second if he was good enough to play at a decent level.
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Kevin Prince Boateng turned down Germany after coming through their youth setup to declare for Ghana, came up against Jerome in a WC quarter final aswell I think, bit of a change to the trend. 
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Michael Keane has come out with big comments about his time with the Ireland underage setup today saying he never felt Irish and he admitted using Ireland as a stepping stone for England.

It might be the truth but why come out with those comments? It all stinks of a big PR twist by The FA's PR team


And we're considering entertaining his brother who's no doubt in the same mindset.....difference being his career went the opposite way
Really? I have come across plenty lads in England who have brothers who see themselves as different nationalities, loads of them Irish. That is a ridiculously sweeping statement.
 
yeah but his brother I crap, if he was any good he wouldn't be declaring for us....we have better irish born players,,, this starting to piss me off... if the players who aren't committed 'english' aren't much better than irish born then they aint worth following....
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Originally posted by mandrake mandrake wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Michael Keane has come out with big comments about his time with the Ireland underage setup today saying he never felt Irish and he admitted using Ireland as a stepping stone for England.

It might be the truth but why come out with those comments? It all stinks of a big PR twist by The FA's PR team


And we're considering entertaining his brother who's no doubt in the same mindset.....difference being his career went the opposite way
Really? I have come across plenty lads in England who have brothers who see themselves as different nationalities, loads of them Irish. That is a ridiculously sweeping statement.
 
yeah but his brother I crap, if he was any good he wouldn't be declaring for us....we have better irish born players,,, this starting to piss me off... if the players who aren't committed 'english' aren't much better than irish born then they aint worth following....
His ability isn't relevant to the debate, nor is where he is born. When two players have similar abilities nobody should be checking their birth certificates. He wants to play for us, if he is deemed good enough he will be picked.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Michael Keane has come out with big comments about his time with the Ireland underage setup today saying he never felt Irish and he admitted using Ireland as a stepping stone for England.

It might be the truth but why come out with those comments? It all stinks of a big PR twist by The FA's PR team


And we're considering entertaining his brother who's no doubt in the same mindset.....difference being his career went the opposite way

Really? I have come across plenty lads in England who have brothers who see themselves as different nationalities, loads of them Irish. That is a ridiculously sweeping statement.


Really, yes....there's been open minded and there's been obtuse

at the time his brother was 'using Ireland as a steeping stone' in his own words, he was playing underage for England......you don't think they ever had a 'conversation' ?

And that would be completely ruling out that people can feel both. Like most of the posts on this thread, you are viewing nationality through your own eyes only.



This Nationality issue has taken on a different meaning as regards footballers, I'm sure it's always been the case with players thinking they're too good for this or that so I'll go with the other and vice versa .....but it's become much more high profile in recent times .......in some cases it's all too obvious and with the Keane brothers this is obviously the case

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Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Michael Keane has come out with big comments about his time with the Ireland underage setup today saying he never felt Irish and he admitted using Ireland as a stepping stone for England.

It might be the truth but why come out with those comments? It all stinks of a big PR twist by The FA's PR team


And we're considering entertaining his brother who's no doubt in the same mindset.....difference being his career went the opposite way

Really? I have come across plenty lads in England who have brothers who see themselves as different nationalities, loads of them Irish. That is a ridiculously sweeping statement.


Really, yes....there's been open minded and there's been obtuse

at the time his brother was 'using Ireland as a steeping stone' in his own words, he was playing underage for England......you don't think they ever had a 'conversation' ?

And that would be completely ruling out that people can feel both. Like most of the posts on this thread, you are viewing nationality through your own eyes only.



This Nationality issue has taken on a different meaning as regards footballers, I'm sure it's always been the case with players thinking they're too good for this or that so I'll go with the other and vice versa .....but it's become much more high profile in recent times .......in some cases it's all too obvious and with the Keane brothers this is obviously the case
It isn't obvious at all. When a person has two (or more)nationalities they are more likely to lean towards one over the other. How strongly they lean to one side  can only really be known by the individual themselves; in this case it is quite probable that both Keane brothers would have chosen in England if it was a straight choice, but it wasn't. That doesn't mean that Keane can't play for Ireland or doesn't feel anything towards us. He can't be responsible for the naivety of his brother. Those comments were really only disrespectful to his family.
I don't think the FAI should be begging or chasing players either, but if a player is eligible and good enough he should be called up and take it from there.  This wailing and gnashing of teeth that players aren't Irish enough by fans is silly. The bottom line is if they are eligible they are Irish enough, after that we are in the realms of thought-crime.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Michael Keane has come out with big comments about his time with the Ireland underage setup today saying he never felt Irish and he admitted using Ireland as a stepping stone for England.

It might be the truth but why come out with those comments? It all stinks of a big PR twist by The FA's PR team


And we're considering entertaining his brother who's no doubt in the same mindset.....difference being his career went the opposite way

Really? I have come across plenty lads in England who have brothers who see themselves as different nationalities, loads of them Irish. That is a ridiculously sweeping statement.


Really, yes....there's been open minded and there's been obtuse

at the time his brother was 'using Ireland as a steeping stone' in his own words, he was playing underage for England......you don't think they ever had a 'conversation' ?

And that would be completely ruling out that people can feel both. Like most of the posts on this thread, you are viewing nationality through your own eyes only.



This Nationality issue has taken on a different meaning as regards footballers, I'm sure it's always been the case with players thinking they're too good for this or that so I'll go with the other and vice versa .....but it's become much more high profile in recent times .......in some cases it's all too obvious and with the Keane brothers this is obviously the case

It isn't obvious at all. When a person has two (or more)nationalities they are more likely to lean towards one over the other. How strongly they lean to one side  can only really be known by the individual themselves; in this case it is quite probable that both Keane brothers would have chosen in England if it was a straight choice, but it wasn't. That doesn't mean that Keane can't play for Ireland or doesn't feel anything towards us. He can't be responsible for the naivety of his brother. Those comments were really only disrespectful to his family.
I don't think the FAI should be begging or chasing players either, but if a player is eligible and good enough he should be called up and take it from there.  This wailing and gnashing of teeth that players aren't Irish enough by fans is silly. The bottom line is if they are eligible they are Irish enough, after that we are in the realms of thought-crime.


I'm not buying it, it's all too convenient

course the flipside could be said we're all guilty, if Nathan Redmond decided tomorrow he wanted to play for Ireland there wouldn't be too many dissenters, hay ho
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What's convenient? I don't understand that.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by mandrake mandrake wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by gazurtoids gazurtoids wrote:

Originally posted by The White Cafu The White Cafu wrote:

Michael Keane has come out with big comments about his time with the Ireland underage setup today saying he never felt Irish and he admitted using Ireland as a stepping stone for England.

It might be the truth but why come out with those comments? It all stinks of a big PR twist by The FA's PR team


And we're considering entertaining his brother who's no doubt in the same mindset.....difference being his career went the opposite way
Really? I have come across plenty lads in England who have brothers who see themselves as different nationalities, loads of them Irish. That is a ridiculously sweeping statement.
 
yeah but his brother I crap, if he was any good he wouldn't be declaring for us....we have better irish born players,,, this starting to piss me off... if the players who aren't committed 'english' aren't much better than irish born then they aint worth following....
His ability isn't relevant to the debate, nor is where he is born. When two players have similar abilities nobody should be checking their birth certificates. He wants to play for us, if he is deemed good enough he will be picked.
 
 I think the ability is the key if he was good he wouldn't play for us,, come on... its time we all woke up...and good enough to be picked,, bottom of championship … I don't know is he much better than say aiden o brien .. so if they have similar abilities i'd say nah don't bother coming over
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Instagram comments which show Declan writing "UP THE RA" have resurfaced. He has been redeemed.
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Instagram comments which show Declan writing "UP THE RA" have resurfaced. He has been redeemed.

That'll go down well at West Ham
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