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No blame attached to Connolly whatsoever for tonight's debacle. Even allowing for City's awesome quality, you'd expect Brighton to try and utilise his pace by getting some balls in behind their defenders-put them under pressure, as Big Jack would have said. They didn't have the midfielders to create anything and were sloppy again at the back. They'll stay up ok but it'll be more of the same next season with the current manager.
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Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

Aaron needs to think about leaving Brighton otherwise he will destroy his confidence. He is just not suited to them in the slightest. He is very very clever and no doubt scouts who have teams in other systems will see what he is and realise his potential.

When he was impressing in the Premier League B, Hoffenheim were interested. A move to the Bundesliga would suit his style very well. There would surely be overseas suitors if he wanted to move 
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Looking at Kane here, you can be a top striker but if you're given nothing to work with you look bang average and anonymous.
Connolly suffers a lot from that for BHA when played up top against good opposition. 
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Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

Aaron needs to think about leaving Brighton otherwise he will destroy his confidence. He is just not suited to them in the slightest. He is very very clever and no doubt scouts who have teams in other systems will see what he is and realise his potential.

If a choice was between starting with a championship club who attacked a bit or a backs to the wall Brighton in the PL he would probably develop more in the Championship.
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He should fight for his Premier league place, its not like he's competing with aguero or anything.

His development over the past 6 months has been incredible, he just needs to add a few goals to his game.

He really hasn't had the opportunity to show his finishing ability yet as chances are not very forthcoming. 
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Yeah, I'd be happy for him to stay where he is if he can keep up an approx. 50% starting rate.
He looks up for the challenge and up to the level with the hope that he will improve in time too.

Only worry is the game time drops off, but then look at Robinson who is getting less game time than Connolly after dropping a division.  He may as well stayed at SU and warmed the bench there.

Connolly for me is a starter in Bulgaria, albeit on the left, with McG in the centre.
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Better off staying at Brighton imo

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Robinson was getting a lot of game time pre Corona virus. I think with him it is a physical thing. 
 I would honestly love Connolly at Leeds or Brentford if they go up. That or the Bundesliga
 If I had to guess next season will be his last at Brighton. They will sign a striker in the summer I reckon.
 It is very easy to blame the guy who does not fit your system and that is what Potter has done a lot to the detriment of Aaron's confidence at times. I think i have seen nearly every game this year and he is often the one yanked off. If Brighton had a decent midfield it may work out for him but the whole Brighton midfield is top end championship at best and generic. You just have to watch Proper the other night. Trossard excluded. That kid is classy. If you watched their distribution to the forwards on tape for the whole season I would think it would be comedic. People say Parrott is our new Robbie Keane but honestly Connolly is far far closer to that.
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Only one difference is that Keane scores goals.

He's played 22 games without scoring a goal. This is ultimately his role in the team as a striker, to score goals.

Playing up top on his own against Liverpool, City and other teams of this calibre, at times he's completely lost (not his fault).

Playing 40 games next year at a lower level scoring regularly would do more for his development in the long term.
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Keane was not the goalscorer people make him out to be in club football at least.
People have green tinted glasses on when it comes to Robbie in that respect. he was great at spurs for a few seasons but not great anywhere else. As a Leeds fan I watched him at a very good Leeds team not able to score a combined 15 goals over 2-3 seasons. He scored more than 15 goals in a season once in his whole career. If you remove his MLS years and focus on his real career. I regard MLS as retirement from top football although improving, his record is 438/159. 

Aaron is in his first year of senior football. Strikers rarely come in scoring a tonne of goals even the ones you imagine were always full of goals. You need to play at the highest level possible. Aaron may end up in the championship for a couple of season but I doubt it. Henry scored 17 goals in his first season at arsenal. in his previous 5 seasons he mostly failed to get over 5 goals. Aguero was a phenom in Argentina when he scored a goal every 2 games. previous seasons 0,0,5. His first season at Atletico he got 6 goals. I'd wager Aaron would do better at a top club.

Anyway moral of the story is people need to be realistic on the goal scoring part especially if they are at a club like Brighton. I guarantee a lot of coaches a very happy with Aaron's progress and a lot of scouts are telling clubs to snap him up if you can get him on the cheap. (because they understand striker development) All that matters is Aaron is making a hell of a lot of right runs and clever movements. 
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Keane is one of the highest premier league scorers ever. If Connolly come half as good for us, we'll be doing well.
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Your basically judging Keane on 1ish season at Leeds, where he scored 4 in 28, which is a poor return for Keane in the context of his career.

And your the one saying Connolly is closer to Keane than Parrott, yet Connolly has scored 1 in 23.

There is no comparison to Keane and Connolly. None.

You could argue that Connolly is better playing from the left rather than in the centre.

So, we shouldn't be comparing Keane and Connolly.
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Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

Keane was not the goalscorer people make him out to be in club football at least.
People have green tinted glasses on when it comes to Robbie in that respect. he was great at spurs for a few seasons but not great anywhere else. As a Leeds fan I watched him at a very good Leeds team not able to score a combined 15 goals over 2-3 seasons. He scored more than 15 goals in a season once in his whole career. If you remove his MLS years and focus on his real career. I regard MLS as retirement from top football although improving, his record is 438/159. 

Aaron is in his first year of senior football. Strikers rarely come in scoring a tonne of goals even the ones you imagine were always full of goals. You need to play at the highest level possible. Aaron may end up in the championship for a couple of season but I doubt it. Henry scored 17 goals in his first season at arsenal. in his previous 5 seasons he mostly failed to get over 5 goals. Aguero was a phenom in Argentina when he scored a goal every 2 games. previous seasons 0,0,5. His first season at Atletico he got 6 goals. I'd wager Aaron would do better at a top club.

Anyway moral of the story is people need to be realistic on the goal scoring part especially if they are at a club like Brighton. I guarantee a lot of coaches a very happy with Aaron's progress and a lot of scouts are telling clubs to snap him up if you can get him on the cheap. (because they understand striker development) All that matters is Aaron is making a hell of a lot of right runs and clever movements. 


Robbie Keane scored over 15 goals for 5 seasons in a row at Spurs. His goal scoring record was very consistent.
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I think people are judging Aaron on his first what? 10 STARTS in senior football where he has 2 goals and was unlucky to not have more.Won penalties and played a big role in keeping Brighton up with link up play that won them the game at Arsenal. The moral of the story is have patience not Robbie keane is a bad player. I happen to judge keane on his peak at spurs where he was objectively a great player. I compared Connolly, Keane, Henry and Aguero. Their early careers of the last 3 were all similar like all great strikers who didn't socre bags of goals straight away. The point is to not judge a player on just goals it is very misleading. It is like McGoldrick, I happen to think he is a very very good player. 
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Robbie Keane scored over 15 goals for 5 seasons in a row at Spurs. His goal scoring record was very consistent.
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Premier league goals and again I am not slating Robbie. I am basically just pointing to striker development as a correct way to measure Aaron.
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Originally posted by Nialler Nialler wrote:

I think people are judging Aaron on his first what? 10 STARTS in senior football where he has 2 goals and was unlucky to not have more.Won penalties and played a big role in keeping Brighton up with link up play that won them the game at Arsenal. The moral of the story is have patience not Robbie keane is a bad player. I happen to judge keane on his peak at spurs where he was objectively a great player. I compared Connolly, Keane, Henry and Aguero. Their early careers of the last 3 were all similar like all great strikers who didn't socre bags of goals straight away. The point is to not judge a player on just goals it is very misleading. It is like McGoldrick, I happen to think he is a very very good player. 

I agree its far too early to "judge" Connolly's goalscoring ability. I just don't think comparing him to one of the best strikers in the Premier League era is particularly helpful either. Like I said, if he winds up half as good as Robbie we'll be doing alright.
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Yep. I just find it helpful using them here as an example of how the best strikers developed and just because he didnt score 10-15 doesn't really mean a thing at this stage. Confidence is everything and putting that much pressure on a young lad learning his trade will crumble him. Lets not be like the fans across the pond in terms of our attitude to young lads. and he is similar in stature to Robbie. Robbie was a tiny striker too. with a low centre of gravity and tricky movement  Parrott is 6 ft 2? and he is going to have physical gifts the other 2 don't. That is why I think Aaron is closer to Robbie than Troy.

best guess is Aaron gets 5-10 next year and is involved a lot more. I really think his ceiling is super high and hope he can hit it


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