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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

General feeling from Uefa is they are desperate to keep the format as it is and will do everything they can to keep it that way. With it being summer, and still some months away, i'd say they have a decent chance of going ahead as planned, with a decent percentage of fans in grounds compared to the zero we are at right now.

Yeah I can see it going ahead as planned and UEFA will leave it up to each country to decide on how many fans to allow into the stadiums.

The UK will obviously have Wembley full for the semifinal and final.


Sounds like a ticketing fiasco is coming down the line if every country can't guarantee full houses. 
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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

I doubt UEFA can take them away unless the host countries agree to it (there would be legal issues and compensation would have to be made) 

I think the majority of host countries won’t give up their games.
Neither UEFA nor Member Associations can go against national governments, though - see eg CL games which have had to be moved to neutral venues recently.

But I agree, UEFA will want to keep the original format as far as possible, and will wait as long as possible (April?) before confirming final details.

It could come down to a trade-off between multiple venues with low (no?) crowds vs fewer venues but with bigger crowds.
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It should be in one country only, and I think that's what will happen. 

For example games been played in Dublin, just a few weeks after the country is coming out of some restrictions and we are inviting fans to come into the country in large numbers. The public would go crazy at that.
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Portugal at 12/1 is a great price. The squad they have is brilliant. I have found that Ronaldo runs out of steam in these Euros and World Cups. If they can manage him and have him play one game in the group stages so he's fresh for the knockouts. But his narcissism and desire to break goal scoring records isn't going to like that idea. 
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Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

Originally posted by AonSceal19 AonSceal19 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

General feeling from Uefa is they are desperate to keep the format as it is and will do everything they can to keep it that way. With it being summer, and still some months away, i'd say they have a decent chance of going ahead as planned, with a decent percentage of fans in grounds compared to the zero we are at right now.

It would be an irresponsible decision from UEFA to continue with the current format. Making players and fans travel across Europe in the current climate. Revisit this format in the future when the world is back to normal.

All fans descending on one country and then heading back doesn't really work either tbf. With the talk of new variants, the host nation may want to limit people entering the country. difficult to predict at this stage where the world will be come June



erm the UK has had its borders open for the majority of the pandemic. A few thousand johnny foreigners ain't going to make much of a difference on top of the several million johnny foreigners who have entered the country as is. 
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

It should be in one country only, and I think that's what will happen. 

For example games been played in Dublin, just a few weeks after the country is coming out of some restrictions and we are inviting fans to come into the country in large numbers. The public would go crazy at that.

As against that, if they chose eg England to host the whole thing, would HMG be happy hosting big travelling support from a dozen other countries, in and out of airports, trains etc?

It's all very well  England itself having everyone vaccinated, but thousands of visitors from other countries which are further behind in their vaccination programme, travelling the length and breadth of England?

Esp if we get another dangerous variant between now and then.

UEFA would do well to remember the old adage: "Never make a decision til you have to"
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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

erm the UK has had its borders open for the majority of the pandemic. A few thousand johnny foreigners ain't going to make much of a difference on top of the several million johnny foreigners who have entered the country as is. 

But that's part of the problem.

It has become very evident that not restricting incoming visitors last year was one of the reasons why we have had such a sh*t pandemic to date.

So that even after the horses had already bolted, we finally started shutting stable doors this year, with a Red List of no-travel countries and quarantine etc introduced in January. Meaning they might extend the same arrangements to the "few thousand"?

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Agree Coleman, but thats the shift in recent months in pressure to monitor people coming into the country. The SNP are stil piling on the pressure re hotel quarantine for everyone outside the red list so you can't really predict where they will end up with this one.

Ultimately, Uefa will do whatever makes them the most cash and they will base their decision on that in April. Playing it in Australia and New Zealand wouldn't surprise me with the sharks that run it.
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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

It should be in one country only, and I think that's what will happen. 

For example games been played in Dublin, just a few weeks after the country is coming out of some restrictions and we are inviting fans to come into the country in large numbers. The public would go crazy at that.

As against that, if they chose eg England to host the whole thing, would HMG be happy hosting big travelling support from a dozen other countries, in and out of airports, trains etc?

It's all very well  England itself having everyone vaccinated, but thousands of visitors from other countries which are further behind in their vaccination programme, travelling the length and breadth of England?

Esp if we get another dangerous variant between now and then.

UEFA would do well to remember the old adage: "Never make a decision til you have to"
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Portugal at 12/1 is a great price. The squad they have is brilliant. I have found that Ronaldo runs out of steam in these Euros and World Cups. If they can manage him and have him play one game in the group stages so he's fresh for the knockouts. But his narcissism and desire to break goal scoring records isn't going to like that idea. 

Yes agreed what a squad good strength in all positions but a tough group. 1/4 to just get out of the group is a decent price. Fancy Turkey to have a good run same manager as 2002 decent squad 
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Portugal at 12/1 is a great price. The squad they have is brilliant. I have found that Ronaldo runs out of steam in these Euros and World Cups. If they can manage him and have him play one game in the group stages so he's fresh for the knockouts. But his narcissism and desire to break goal scoring records isn't going to like that idea. 

They have a seriously tough group, they will need him for all the games.


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Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Who is HMG?

(Quicker than typing "the Government" or "Westminster" etc)


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Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

Agree Coleman, but thats the shift in recent months in pressure to monitor people coming into the country. The SNP are stil piling on the pressure re hotel quarantine for everyone outside the red list so you can't really predict where they will end up with this one.

Ultimately, Uefa will do whatever makes them the most cash and they will base their decision on that in April. Playing it in Australia and New Zealand wouldn't surprise me with the sharks that run it.
 
I know you were only joking with Australia and NZ but are anywhere on GMT or CET globally that is isolated where it could be held. I'd guess KO times can't be moved too much as TV rights would have been sold with afternoon and evening KO's.
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I’d imagine the original host  countries will host with restrictions on travelling support based on individual red lists.

Also reduced capacity based on local situation.
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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Who is HMG?

(Quicker than typing "the Government" or "Westminster" etc)

Her majesty's ffs LOL

You lads love it. The govt. would of sufficed.
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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

It should be in one country only, and I think that's what will happen. 

For example games been played in Dublin, just a few weeks after the country is coming out of some restrictions and we are inviting fans to come into the country in large numbers. The public would go crazy at that.

As against that, if they chose eg England to host the whole thing, would HMG be happy hosting big travelling support from a dozen other countries, in and out of airports, trains etc?

It's all very well  England itself having everyone vaccinated, but thousands of visitors from other countries which are further behind in their vaccination programme, travelling the length and breadth of England?

Esp if we get another dangerous variant between now and then.

UEFA would do well to remember the old adage: "Never make a decision til you have to"

If and it's a big if England were to host it would be one hell of a pr coup for Boris Johnson, "we vaccinated the country in record time and we can host the Euros". A good way to deflect from the outrageously high death rate. You can only imagine the red tops headlines; Boris saves Europe 3 months after Brexit 
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

It should be in one country only, and I think that's what will happen. 

For example games been played in Dublin, just a few weeks after the country is coming out of some restrictions and we are inviting fans to come into the country in large numbers. The public would go crazy at that.

As against that, if they chose eg England to host the whole thing, would HMG be happy hosting big travelling support from a dozen other countries, in and out of airports, trains etc?

It's all very well  England itself having everyone vaccinated, but thousands of visitors from other countries which are further behind in their vaccination programme, travelling the length and breadth of England?

Esp if we get another dangerous variant between now and then.

UEFA would do well to remember the old adage: "Never make a decision til you have to"

If and it's a big if England were to host it would be one hell of a pr coup for Boris Johnson, "we vaccinated the country in record time and we can host the Euros". A good way to deflect from the outrageously high death rate. You can only imagine the red tops headlines; Boris saves Europe 3 months after Brexit 

There will probably be some badly photoshopped image of Boris in the cockpit of a spitfire raining bullets down on the German football team. Obviously no context needed at all.
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Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by FrankosHereNow FrankosHereNow wrote:

Who is HMG?

(Quicker than typing "the Government" or "Westminster" etc)

Her majesty's ffs LOL

You lads love it. The govt. would of sufficed.
"You lads"?

It's widely used as an abbreviation in a range of contexts.

Same reason why I use "NI" instead of eg "the occupied six county statelet" or the like, so beloved of (ahem) you lads.

P.S. It's "would have" btw. You know, standard Queen's English Wink




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