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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

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England on the right track to host this if it goes to a single country.

 
Providing the Tories don't f**k up the re-openings again 

Fortunately the folk running the vaccine operation have been left to do the job. Given the numbers vaccinated to date (nearly a 1/3 of the population of England) re-opening in April should be fine.
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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:


England on the right track to host this if it goes to a single country.

 
Providing the Tories don't f**k up the re-openings again 

Fortunately the folk running the vaccine operation have been left to do the job. Given the numbers vaccinated to date (nearly a 1/3 of the population of England) re-opening in April should be fine.

Well half vacinated - most still need the second dose. I think there is talk that the efl cup final will trial 30,000 fans in April. 
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The Tories are doing a great job getting folk to focus on the jab numbers and ignore the case / death numbers. Like everyone else there’s too much of the virus in communities to consider lifting as per the the leaked document.

It’s still a long road ahead - if they jump the gun cases and deaths will continue but hey... we got to host a football event.
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Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

The Tories are doing a great job getting folk to focus on the jab numbers and ignore the case / death numbers. Like everyone else there’s too much of the virus in communities to consider lifting as per the the leaked document.

It’s still a long road ahead - if they jump the gun cases and deaths will continue but hey... we got to host a football event.

By the time the Euro comes around everybody in the high risk category (25M) will have 2 doses (this is due end of April).
I would imagine all adults will have had one dose by then so the UK will be in a much different place then...


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Give it to the Brits so we can have a normal Euros 



Stage three

No earlier than 17 May:

  • Performances and large events can resume, with some limits. For indoor events they can be at half capacity or 1,000 people, and outdoors they can be at half capacity or 4,000 people - whichever is lower. For large venues (at least 40,000 capacity) up to 10,000 will be allowed to attend
  • International travel will resume no earlier than 17 May

Stage four

No earlier than 21 June:

  • All legal limits on social contact will be removed
  • No legal limits on the number of people who can attend weddings, funerals and other life events. From April, the government will run pilots for events such as large weddings, festivals and work conferences. This will help to determine how measures such as enhanced testing might allow large groups to attend without social distancing
  • Nightclubs and theatres will be allowed to reopen
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Originally posted by Dalymount79 Dalymount79 wrote:

The Tories are doing a great job getting folk to focus on the jab numbers and ignore the case / death numbers. Like everyone else there’s too much of the virus in communities to consider lifting as per the the leaked document.

It’s still a long road ahead - if they jump the gun cases and deaths will continue but hey... we got to host a football event.

If that’s the case after well over half the country being vaccinated/offered the vaccine then it will be a case of get on with life what do we do lock away forever.

Anyways as for Euro 2021 Ireland might see fans in stadiums by 2025 if our lot are anything to go by.
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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Give it to the Brits so we can have a normal Euros 



Stage three

No earlier than 17 May:

  • Performances and large events can resume, with some limits. For indoor events they can be at half capacity or 1,000 people, and outdoors they can be at half capacity or 4,000 people - whichever is lower. For large venues (at least 40,000 capacity) up to 10,000 will be allowed to attend
  • International travel will resume no earlier than 17 May

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No earlier than 21 June:

  • All legal limits on social contact will be removed
  • No legal limits on the number of people who can attend weddings, funerals and other life events. From April, the government will run pilots for events such as large weddings, festivals and work conferences. This will help to determine how measures such as enhanced testing might allow large groups to attend without social distancing
  • Nightclubs and theatres will be allowed to reopen


There's a lot of if's in there. Vaccine Role out or not the Brits have f**ked up every re-opening so far.


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Giving the Euros to Britain would seem like the sensible option at this stage. They seem to have got their act together. They’ve gambled with the vaccines and the early studies would suggest it’s working. Some great stadia to host the matches as well.
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The vaccine they're rolling out in the UK is considerably less effective in percentage terms than the ones being rolled out in Ireland, elsewhere in Europe and the US. It is also far more prone to being bypassed by new variants than the other vaccines. Given how the UK has handled the pandemic so far I can see the whole vaccination program there failing when the south African or Brazilian variant takes hold and the vaccine theyve given half the country becomes useless to them.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The vaccine they're rolling out in the UK is considerably less effective in percentage terms than the ones being rolled out in Ireland, elsewhere in Europe and the US. It is also far more prone to being bypassed by new variants than the other vaccines. Given how the UK has handled the pandemic so far I can see the whole vaccination program there failing when the south African or Brazilian variant takes hold and the vaccine theyve given half the country becomes useless to them.

Is the Pfizer vaccine the UK are using different to the one Ireland / Europe are using? They are coming from the same factory so how are they splitting the good ones from the bad ones? They better not mix them up and give those b***ards the good ones.



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The vast majority of the UK population are being given AstraZenica, hence the faster rollout. It's only around 60% effective compared to the likes of Pfizer at 90%+.

They'll end up having to re-vaccinate the entire population.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The vast majority of the UK population are being given AstraZenica, hence the faster rollout. It's only around 60% effective compared to the likes of Pfizer at 90%+.

They'll end up having to re-vaccinate the entire population.

Is that the same with the North? I thought Pfizer was the main one being used up here.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The vast majority of the UK population are being given AstraZenica, hence the faster rollout. It's only around 60% effective compared to the likes of Pfizer at 90%+.

They'll end up having to re-vaccinate the entire population.

Okay so the 40M Pfizer vaccines the Uk have ordered is the same as the one for the rest of Europe.

Everybody in the world will have to be vaccinated again -  with so many variants this is looking like an annual vaccine similar to the flu. 


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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The vast majority of the UK population are being given AstraZenica, hence the faster rollout. It's only around 60% effective compared to the likes of Pfizer at 90%+.

They'll end up having to re-vaccinate the entire population.

Is that the same with the North? I thought Pfizer was the main one being used up here.

The hospitals all seem to be using the Pfizer ones as they have the facilities to store them.

If you are going to your local GP it’s more likely to be the AstraZenica.

The % split between Pfizer and AZ has never been released so nobody knows if the vast majority has gotten the Pfizer / AZ or if it’s evenly split. 

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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The vast majority of the UK population are being given AstraZenica, hence the faster rollout. It's only around 60% effective compared to the likes of Pfizer at 90%+.

They'll end up having to re-vaccinate the entire population.

Is that the same with the North? I thought Pfizer was the main one being used up here.

The hospitals all seem to be using the Pfizer ones as they have the facilities to store them.

If you are going to your local GP it’s more likely to be the AstraZenica.

The % split between Pfizer and AZ has never been released so nobody knows if the vast majority has gotten the Pfizer / AZ or if it’s evenly split. 

Cheers. 

Are the ‘effective percentages’ mentioned above correct?
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The vast majority of the UK population are being given AstraZenica, hence the faster rollout. It's only around 60% effective compared to the likes of Pfizer at 90%+.

They'll end up having to re-vaccinate the entire population.

Is that the same with the North? I thought Pfizer was the main one being used up here.

The hospitals all seem to be using the Pfizer ones as they have the facilities to store them.

If you are going to your local GP it’s more likely to be the AstraZenica.

The % split between Pfizer and AZ has never been released so nobody knows if the vast majority has gotten the Pfizer / AZ or if it’s evenly split. 

Cheers. 

Are the ‘effective percentages’ mentioned above correct?

All the drug companies are obviously pushing theirs as the best and there has been a number of ranges published. 
AZ in particular has had mixed reviews. 

Pfizer would definitely seem the preferred option if you have the choice.

 



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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

The vast majority of the UK population are being given AstraZenica, hence the faster rollout. It's only around 60% effective compared to the likes of Pfizer at 90%+.

Latest Update from earlier today:

The first results of the UK's vaccination rollout suggests it is having a "spectacular impact on preventing serious illness" from coronavirus. Research led by Public Health Scotland found that at four weeks after the first dose, Covid hospital admissions were reduced by 85% for the Pfizer jab, and 94% for the AstraZeneca jab. Lead researcher Prof Aziz Sheikh said the results were "very, very" impressive and both vaccines were working "spectacularly".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56140072

And from yesterday:
There is "early data" showing a reduction in transmission in people who have had a coronavirus vaccine, the health secretary has said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56145392

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

They'll end up having to re-vaccinate the entire population.
Thanks, I'll pass it on.



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