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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Would tend to agree with Coyner somewhat. Biggest weakness is probably at GK. Also if they win their group they the play the runner up of Group F likely to be one of Portugal, Germany or France (With all due respect to Hungary) in the last 16
true regarding the gk. that make two major weaknesses.

they'd be beaten by all three if they employ the same tactics as they did at the wc. colombia tried the physical approach but forgot to actually play the game, sweden are just sh*te yet still got england to pens and then england got found out against a croatia side who were no great shakes either. 

portugal or france would have disposed of england at the wc. although they may perhaps have beaten a woefully out of luck germany at the time.
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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Would tend to agree with Coyner somewhat. Biggest weakness is probably at GK. Also if they win their group they the play the runner up of Group F likely to be one of Portugal, Germany or France (With all due respect to Hungary) in the last 16
true regarding the gk. that make two major weaknesses.

they'd be beaten by all three if they employ the same tactics as they did at the wc. colombia tried the physical approach but forgot to actually play the game, sweden are just sh*te yet still got england to pens and then england got found out against a croatia side who were no great shakes either. 

portugal or france would have disposed of england at the wc. although they may perhaps have beaten a woefully out of luck germany at the time.

This is true LOL

Colombia were well up for it, they just decided to play a completely different form of football to England's benefit LOL
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Without Googling it, I thought Sweden were beaten 2-0 by England. 
They have a scary amount of talent at the moment.
RE Euro 2020, I wasn't exactly enamoured with the Scottish fans when I took the train up from London to see them against MON's Ireland, wouldn't it be hilarious if no fans get to go to their first tournament in 20-odd years?
Even Scotland have some very good players right now, whereas we really have nothing going for us at the moment, sigh. 
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Originally posted by GaretFarellysNutSack GaretFarellysNutSack wrote:

Without Googling it, I thought Sweden were beaten 2-0 by England. 
They have a scary amount of talent at the moment.
RE Euro 2020, I wasn't exactly enamoured with the Scottish fans when I took the train up from London to see them against MON's Ireland, wouldn't it be hilarious if no fans get to go to their first tournament in 20-odd years?
Even Scotland have some very good players right now, whereas we really have nothing going for us at the moment, sigh. 

correct my bad. 2 shots on target, 2 goals. england were clinical to their credit in a fairly even game.
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Home advantage and a lot of patriotic bets has England at a bad price.

Assuming they win the group then they need to beat one of France/Germany or Portugal and then Spain just to make the semi finals.   As runners up they'd meet Poland and then the winners of the France/Germany/Portugal group.

I know it doesn't always work out as expected but they have a very tough route to the Final.  
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Originally posted by Dugs Dugs wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

On current form I would go with this 11:

Rui Patricio
Cancelo 
Dias
Ruben Semedo
Guerreiro
Danilo Pereira
Ruben Neves
Bruno Fernandes
Bernardo Silva 
Joao Felix
Ronaldo

Bench isn’t bad either with the likes of Jota, Andre Silva, Trincao, Moutinho, Guedes and Ricardo Pereira to name a few.



That looks pretty tasty. God if we only had a few of them...
Looking forward to all the "they're fairly average really" posts when we play them later this year
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Realistically, there's probably a good chance Portugal will exceed Germany's 6-1 win over us in Dublin. Then again, they have a history of underperforming against minnows in these campaigns.

It'll be interesting to watch what Portugal team turns up anyway.
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Portugal would be my pick at the minute too

Can't keep saying Belgium, i don't think they'll ever cross the rubicon and win a tournament
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

On current form I would go with this 11:

Rui Patricio
Cancelo 
Dias
Ruben Semedo
Guerreiro
Danilo Pereira
Ruben Neves
Bruno Fernandes
Bernardo Silva 
Joao Felix
Ronaldo

Bench isn’t bad either with the likes of Jota, Andre Silva, Trincao, Moutinho, Guedes and Ricardo Pereira to name a few.




Oh my focking god are they gonna take us to the cleaners when we meet them in qualifying CryLOL
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

On current form I would go with this 11:

Rui Patricio
Cancelo 
Dias
Ruben Semedo
Guerreiro
Danilo Pereira
Ruben Neves
Bruno Fernandes
Bernardo Silva 
Joao Felix
Ronaldo

Bench isn’t bad either with the likes of Jota, Andre Silva, Trincao, Moutinho, Guedes and Ricardo Pereira to name a few.




Oh my focking god are they gonna take us to the cleaners when we meet them in qualifying CryLOL

Yeah but we have a Jeff Hendrick.



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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Portugal would be my pick at the minute too

Can't keep saying Belgium, i don't think they'll ever cross the rubicon and win a tournament


Would have been said about Spain before Euro 2008
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Portugal would be my pick at the minute too

Can't keep saying Belgium, i don't think they'll ever cross the rubicon and win a tournament

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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Portugal would be my pick at the minute too

Can't keep saying Belgium, i don't think they'll ever cross the rubicon and win a tournament

Should have done better in 2016 and were close to winning it in 2018. 2020 and 2022 the last Chance for this golden generation. 




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Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

 a lot of patriotic bets has England at a bad price.

 


betting is a pretty global game now! Patriotism doesn't explain how England are favourites worldwide not just in the UK

I echo the Portugal shouts and think the 6/1 available on them to win their group is better value than 12/1 to win the whole thing

I like to target group winners that are guaranteed to play a runner up in the last 8 when betting on the outright, Portugal would fall into that category should they win the group, as well as Holland. However I can't see the latter winning without van Dijk being fit.
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Portugal would be my pick at the minute too

Can't keep saying Belgium, i don't think they'll ever cross the rubicon and win a tournament
Belgium is an odd one, golden generation is probably at the age you'd think it's their last big chance, 2 or 4 years on from this they'll be an old team

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Originally posted by Jimmy Raggatip Jimmy Raggatip wrote:

Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

 a lot of patriotic bets has England at a bad price.

 
 

I echo the Portugal shouts and think the 6/1 available on them to win their group is better value than 12/1 to win the whole thing

I like to target group winners that are guaranteed to play a runner up in the last 8 when betting on the outright, Portugal would fall into that category should they win the group, as well as Holland. However I can't see the latter winning without van Dijk being fit.

That’s a good shout as they are playing Hungry first.
Win that and it takes some of the pressure off.

Play Germany and then France.

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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:


England on the right track to host this if it goes to a single country.




 
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