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@newryrep Its not easy to follow your posts or be sure what point any particular comment relates to.  As regards the issue of trust I said I'm not questioning anyone's integrity but integrity and judgement are two entirely different issues. It is not uncommon for well intentioned people to make bad judgement calls and I wouldn't be in favour of self appointed leaders representing me in any circumstances or on any issue or level.  You asked me earlier if I would be putting my name on the list and I answered honestly that I wouldn't be at this moment at least.  I respect the position of the people who want to support this initiative but as I've said I hope it doesn't damage the little we currently have.  I think almost without exception the people who should have got sorted for tickets for France got sorted and I'm looking forward to the next few weeks and to the autumn when I expect to see the usual couple of hundred at the away games.

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Portal wrote: @newryrep Its not easy to follow your posts or be sure what point any particular comment relates to.  As regards the issue of trust I said I'm not questioning anyone's integrity but integrity and judgement are two entirely different issues. It is not uncommon for well intentioned people to make bad judgement calls and I wouldn't be in favour of self appointed leaders representing me in any circumstances or on any issue or level.  You asked me earlier if I would be putting my name on the list and I answered honestly that I wouldn't be at this moment at least.  I respect the position of the people who want to support this initiative but as I've said I hope it doesn't damage the little we currently have.  I think almost without exception the people who should have got sorted for tickets for France got sorted and I'm looking forward to the next few weeks and to the autumn when I expect to see the usual couple of hundred at the away games.

On these two points, do you think the usual couple of hundred and the people who should get sorted will get tickets for Cardiff, when we'll have about 1,600 tickets? Even more so if the game means something for both teams, which it might well.

Just a reminder, if 30% of tickets go to SCs and Fans' Direct, that'll be under 500 tickets. Now, SCs have, I think, about 1,200 season tickets..... Fans' Direct at last count had two to three hundred (largely "the usual couple of hundred" you refer to).

So, using those maths, generously counting 300 for FD, pro-rating, that's 100 tickets for FD and 400 for the 1,200 SC members.

That means only 100 of the usual couple of hundred, who go to basically every game, home and away, would get tickets in Cardiff.

And you're prepared to stand by and let that happen? This is something that we need to talk about now, not later.

@SD - I don't think the system is right or fair or transparent but I do think the FAI or should I say Delaney learned lessons from Glasgow and I don't think we will have a similar fcuking up again anytime soon. You seem to be under the impression that all of the die hard regular away supporters are so called "independents" or ybigers but that's not so. I know plenty of sc members who are part of the hard core and that's even more so since the emergence of C88.

Stop misrepresenting what I said: I quite clearly said "largely 'the usual couple of hundred' you refer to".... completely different to "You seem to be under the impression that all of the die hard regular away supporters are so called 'independents' or ybigers". I don't know whether you're doing that on purpose or whether you didn't read my post in detail; either way, that's not what I said.

Put it like this: is 100 tickets for non-affiliated independent fans enough? Not even close. That's the key point. Misrepresenting where I said "largely" to mean "all" doesn't answer that point at all.

We can't just hope that the FAI have learned lessens. They may well have; but we don't know for sure. If they have, great. If they haven't, we have to do all we can to make sure that sort of thing doesn't happen again. That's the purpose of the mandate. A hunch, whether correct or not, doesn't mean everything is grand.

This thread is going to get derailed now

@SD - I have no argument with you. I am 100% sure the FAI will not respond positively to this and it is ill advised and ill timed.

For the record, the OP was posted by myself but drafted by a few people.