Magilton fumes over more North Defections

Your two points don't follow one from the other. While all taxpayers have a valid say in how public money is spent, that doesn't contradict the claim that it's wasteful for- say- a player to turn out repeatedly for NI adult sides, then to leave them for the South.

 

 

i was asked a question and i gave an answer, i made no claim that my experience proves anything 100%. If u are happy to go then fill your boots, personally i wouldn't open my curtains if they were playing in my back garden. I  would occasionally go to cliftonville games and against certain sides their fans like to display uvf flags, parachuite regiments flags etc. These are the same boys that follow N.I and i am upset that i have to share the earth with them, so no  way would i share a ground with them. Like i said earlier, the anthems flags and mentality of sections of the N.i support will never change and thats fine with me because i would never support them and will not be bringing my children up to support them either, the cycle will continue

How come players like McGinn, Ferguson, McCourt etc play for the North when it goes against everything they were brought up with?

 

If our PUL chums had a strategic bone in their body they would tolerate this. We now have a de facto United Irish side, which takes pressure off the IFA to be subsumed into the FAI. Let players choose, but yes, I can see the frustration when they wait until they are 20 to do so.

I was thinking more of  the time wasted coaching the player (although I accept that's done mainly at clubs) before he changes international team, and of the more committed who lose out as a result (although even at youth levels you want to field as strong a side as possible)

Aye, I mentioned the minority in my own previous post. This is accepted by everybody, so there's no need for a succession of people on here to say anecdotally 'all my nationalist friends/relatives/ colleagues who like football support the South'.

drogaddict wrote: Devout Roman Catholics 😂😂😂😂, ah Heyor!! What's their favourite soup??

Off it for Lent when we met for a lemonade last week ;)

Irish2011 wrote: How come players like McGinn, Ferguson, McCourt etc play for the North when it goes against everything they were brought up with?

Reasons include,

1) It doesn't necessarily contradict everything: not everyone in the NI nationalist or any other community is equally hardcore

2) as Peter mentioned, rational choice to boost their own career. Particulaarly in the last couple of seasons where the NI team manages to be both easier to break into and (however temporarily) better

3) unwillingness to face criticism (again as above, although this may be overstated as players moving becomes more commonplace)

PeterBelfast wrote: i made no claim that my experience proves anything 100%

Apologies if I read too much into you detailing that experience. 

I  would occasionally go to cliftonville games and against certain sides their fans like to display uvf flags, parachuite regiments flags etc. These are the same boys that follow N.I and i am upset that i have to share the earth with them, so no  way would i share a ground with them

Disappointing that you seem to base your opinion of most/ all NI fans on a few wannabe paramilitaries at Irish League games. I've managed to steer clear of them in 40 years of watching local football (I went to Cliftonville Primary School near the ground).

i would never support them and will not be bringing my children up to support them either, the cycle will continue

Your choice, of course. But can you be sure the next generation will share your hardcore attitude. "I am upset that I have to share the Earth with them" probably wouldn't be welcome at the now integrated Cliftonville PS ;)

Roverstilllidie wrote: If our PUL chums had a strategic bone in their body they would tolerate this. We now have a de facto United Irish side, which takes pressure off the IFA to be subsumed into the FAI. Let players choose, but yes, I can see the frustration when they wait until they are 20 to do so

We're a bit more strategic than you suggest. The IFA and FAI actually have a decent working relationship however much many of our fans criticise it. There was a recent friendly, a pre-Euros camp in the South is planned, coaches co-operate at all levels etc.

You've always had a united Ireland side in principle, I agree it's now more widely recognised in practice. Which makes it the more disappointing that so many of your fans still want a separate NI side not to exist. That's just ingrained bias tending to bigotry, don't ye think? Especially as there's no likelihood of a united Ireland in the foreseeable, as no doubt Enda, MeHole and even Mary Lou will agree off-camera before and after tomorrow's poll.

Bob Hoskins wrote: But, how many players that have changed to our team, have played under age games for Norn Iron?