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Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

Originally posted by inlikeflynn inlikeflynn wrote:

But this is Belfast City Council, not Stormont! Who on the squad actually comes from Belfast? Why Belfast and not Derry, Cork or Dublin.
 
It's just politicians making trouble for the sake of it.
 
And therin lies the crux of the matter. Why should it cause any trouble, surely it should be a cause for celebration. Both teams north and south qualify and have a reception in the north and south for one another in a sign of friendship and mutual respect for the achievements. As for the 1st point who actually comes from Belfast surely that has absolutely no bearing on the issue.
Of course it does! It's not the North honouring them, or seeking not to, it's Belfast. If they had a reception in Stormont, I'd be all in favour, but Belfast City Council! Why them? What is their connection that no other city has? I can think of no specific link to Belfast other than the number of supporters there, but there are other cities with more supporters. Dublin, London and maybe Cork. I can't think of one Belfast player. Even the line about both managers being Nordies, honour them at Stormont then. Neither are Belfastmen.
 
Belfast and its city council should just keep their noses out.
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The Stoops chose Belfast CC for their stunt because

a) there aren't enough Nationalist MLAs to win a majority at Stormont

b) Belfast City Hall is particularly symbolic for Unionists

c) the Media can't be arsed travelling to a do in Derry, Newry or some other Nat-majority backwater.
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Originally posted by inlikeflynn inlikeflynn wrote:

Originally posted by Stickittotheman Stickittotheman wrote:

Originally posted by inlikeflynn inlikeflynn wrote:

But this is Belfast City Council, not Stormont! Who on the squad actually comes from Belfast? Why Belfast and not Derry, Cork or Dublin.
 
It's just politicians making trouble for the sake of it.
 
And therin lies the crux of the matter. Why should it cause any trouble, surely it should be a cause for celebration. Both teams north and south qualify and have a reception in the north and south for one another in a sign of friendship and mutual respect for the achievements. As for the 1st point who actually comes from Belfast surely that has absolutely no bearing on the issue.
Of course it does! It's not the North honouring them, or seeking not to, it's Belfast. If they had a reception in Stormont, I'd be all in favour, but Belfast City Council! Why them? What is their connection that no other city has? I can think of no specific link to Belfast other than the number of supporters there, but there are other cities with more supporters. Dublin, London and maybe Cork. I can't think of one Belfast player. Even the line about both managers being Nordies, honour them at Stormont then. Neither are Belfastmen.
 
Belfast and its city council should just keep their noses out.
The motion wouldnt pass at Stormont as the UUP and DUP would block it, but look it really is no big deal, it shouldnt cause any trouble or offence to anyone with a progressive, modern outlook- gladly many unionists i know fall into this category although still those out there in the never brigade.
 
Walters coming back from an offside position but Shane Long was definitely onside- Shane Lonnggggggg.... has done it!!!!
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Originally posted by Floreat Ultonia Floreat Ultonia wrote:

The Stoops chose Belfast CC for their stunt because

a) there aren't enough Nationalist MLAs to win a majority at Stormont

b) Belfast City Hall is particularly symbolic for Unionists

c) the Media can't be arsed travelling to a do in Derry, Newry or some other Nat-majority backwater.

would agree with this. the knuckle draggers have never really recovered since their fleg was taken down from belfast city hall. 

why is it unionist leaders bite every time? 
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No point in having a reception..i doubt it very much the players would want it and it all seems very small time. If we both get to the quarters or something fair enough. It just gives off the impression to me that we're happy to be there and it doesn't matter if we're humiliated over there...
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Stickit: if the SDLP had a modern, progressive  outlook (which comes from policies, it isn't enough just to elect a 30-something leader), they wouldn't even consider a witless stunt like this. They are of course just as regressive as the single-issue Unionist parties.

It's quite straightforward. As others have noted above, the only people who could possibly be irritated by this are Unionists. Who are, er, the only people it's directed at.

LondonIrish: the Unionist parties might well blether on about 1916, 1690 etc. but all they're really prioritising is maintaining the vote in 2016. It's worked for them in recent elections (Unionist turnout up, Nationalist down and flirting with further-left parties), so they'll do it again. It's rational for them, they aren't bothered about seeming reactive to you.
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Bronze is right of course- the two FAs won't respond to this in the second half of an English season, regardless of the party political aspects: the players simply wouldn't turn up.
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Originally posted by Floreat Ultonia Floreat Ultonia wrote:

Stickit: if the SDLP had a modern, progressive  outlook (which comes from policies, it isn't enough just to elect a 30-something leader), they wouldn't even consider a witless stunt like this. They are of course just as regressive as the single-issue Unionist parties.

It's quite straightforward. As others have noted above, the only people who could possibly be irritated by this are Unionists. Who are, er, the only people it's directed at.

LondonIrish: the Unionist parties might well blether on about 1916, 1690 etc. but all they're really prioritising is maintaining the vote in 2016. It's worked for them in recent elections (Unionist turnout up, Nationalist down and flirting with further-left parties), so they'll do it again. It's rational for them, they aren't bothered about seeming reactive to you.
 
No i dont see the SDLP as very progressive at all, in fact i have been so bewildered by them i havent bothered voting at all in recent elections. A joint civic reception i do see as progressive though- there are many in NI who see themselves as Irish, that however is hardly ever mentioned.
 
I admit that the parties in the North love nothing more than winding up the 'other side' but really the unionists look so backwards and archaic in their reaction over this- a confident unionism would embrace it but the paranoia is to me unfathomable. Its like aw they're on the windup now trying to annoy us but why should anyone be annoyed, why should anyone feel threatened.
 
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The civic reception will be the last thing on unionists minds when Norn Iron are forced into singing a new anthem this summerLOL
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

The civic reception will be the last thing on unionists minds when Norn Iron are forced into singing a new anthem this summerLOL


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Lots of Norn Iron fans are actively trying to get rid off GSTQ,There is a subforum on OWC to aid this.
It seems to bother more on here than it does Northern Ireland fans!
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Originally posted by lexie_2005 lexie_2005 wrote:

Lots of Norn Iron fans are actively trying to get rid off GSTQ,There is a subforum on OWC to aid this.
It seems to bother more on here than it does Northern Ireland fans!

It's always been an odd choice of anthem for them as it contains not a single reference to Northern Ireland in the lyrics (it's mainly about the head of state, refers to 'Britain' in verse 5 and has a dig at the Scots in verse 6).
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Originally posted by FREEWHEELER FREEWHEELER wrote:

To be fair now lads, it's the first time both nations have qualified for the same tournament and both nations managed by Northern Irishmen, with Michael having also managed as we know with Rovers.  I think the idea is well-intentioned and it seems only Hutchinson and his pathetic mob are making an issue of it.  


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Motion passed, Belfast city council will invite both teams for a civic reception. A loyalist protest tonight had 5 protesters. Pleased that r.o.i followers in the north are being recognised
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We should have sent up 5 of our lads too and they could have a 5 a side.

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When they are all there getting their photos taken with guys from a few mile up/down the road, some of whom are club mates and all get along hopefully it is not lost on both associations. One island, one country, one team.

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Originally posted by peterbelfast peterbelfast wrote:

Motion passed, Belfast city council will invite both teams for a civic reception. A loyalist protest tonight had 5 protesters. Pleased that r.o.i followers in the north are being recognised
 
recognised by who ?  Belfast City council ?
 
I really don't know what is more perplexing
 
the almost 100% guarantee that unionists will shoot themselves in the foot and threaten/stage a protest - its right up there with Blackadder go Forth and advancing over the top for the umpteenth time as they wont be expecting it
 
nationalists kidding themselves that it wasn't a sh*t stirring exercise
 
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Recognised by the council who represent the people from the city.The reality is both teams are supported widely in the city so why not have both teams honoured. Tbh I don't care what reaction loyalists will have too it and if their paltry protest is anything to go by, it looks like most people give zero fudge. Any initiative that recognises both traditions in Belfast is a positive thing as far as I am concerned.
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