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Off topic but South Dublin county council have been quoted in the Tallaght Echo today saying that extra funds have been made available to build a 2.5k stand at the Square end of tallaght stadium...building to commence in 2017
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Originally posted by DavidMan DavidMan wrote:

Really. They build a state of the art stadium and people are still giving out. Cry babies.
Regarding CRoke park the hill is a wonderful idea even if it doesn't look good. The atmosphere it creates is great and most people want a standing terrace but when there is one somewhere else depechemode you'll complain


It might have an atmosphere but the hill attracts some scum bags too. Planning permission would never happen anyway .
It has a fantastic history but it's still half finished looking. Aviva slightly better
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AVIVA stadium is a bad design when you compare it to stadiums around the world. The pitch in the lower tiers is too shallow giving terrible views from the SS. The acoustics are horrific. I haven't seen a stadium where you cant hear the crowd down the other end nor the stadium announcer. Compare it to similar size stadiums like the Friends Arena, Schalke, Poland's stadium...  They offer better views from the lower tiers.
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Its probably the worst modern stadium in the world
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To answer the question yes the north end could be completed to make a full bowl . The way stadiums are designed in the last ten years is so that expanding capacity can be done so with very little work required to the existing structure . To complete the bowl shape you'd probable need 12 months . But a bit like the same situation as Croke park great idea , completely possible but very likely to never happen
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It would be pointless. It was a very silly idea to rebuilt the stadium on that site. They should have tried to go to the Poolbeg Site just up the road.

The stadium was outdated before it was even opened. Concessions are a disaster, the views from the lower stands are a waste of a ticket, the north stand in its entiretly is a pointless excercise, there are only 2 big screens (which are not very big), it doesnt have a retractable roof, the exits from the centre of East Upper is a safety hazard. All of the exits on the top tier are quite hazardous if there needs to be an emergency evacuation.

The life-span of this stadium will be short
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It's the worst modern stadium I've been in...No love for it at all...Actually it looks well on the outside and is deadly looking from the Point theatre
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Not to mention the toilet entrances are cramped, not suited to the numbers of people coming and going at half time and generally encourage congestion and crushes. There should be an entrance and exit to every toilet but there isn't.
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I think municipal stadia were the way to go. Of course it's probably too late now.
It would have been great to have a 30-50k all seater stadia in Galway, Cork and Dublin.
GAA teams and our international sides and maybe even some of the provincial sides could play their games in them.
When public money was being handed out to the GAA making municipal stadiums should have been a condition of it.
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At least Tallaght stadium went to Rovers despite the gaa and Thomas Davis trying to derail it a few years ago..

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Originally posted by Bitored Bitored wrote:

I think municipal stadia were the way to go. Of course it's probably too late now.
It would have been great to have a 30-50k all seater stadia in Galway, Cork and Dublin.
GAA teams and our international sides and maybe even some of the provincial sides could play their games in them.
When public money was being handed out to the GAA making municipal stadiums should have been a condition of it.

I'm glad this didn't happen. 

Watching football in a stadium, when the closest seat is 20 meters from the pitch Ouch
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Not to mention the toilet entrances are cramped, not suited to the numbers of people coming and going at half time and generally encourage congestion and crushes. There should be an entrance and exit to every toilet but there isn't.

For a stadium built only a few years ago, the toilet situation is shocking altogether. How the feck they managed to design that aspect of the stadium so badly is beyond me.
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Originally posted by The Fly The Fly wrote:

Originally posted by Bitored Bitored wrote:

I think municipal stadia were the way to go. Of course it's probably too late now.
It would have been great to have a 30-50k all seater stadia in Galway, Cork and Dublin.
GAA teams and our international sides and maybe even some of the provincial sides could play their games in them.
When public money was being handed out to the GAA making municipal stadiums should have been a condition of it.


I'm glad this didn't happen. 

Watching football in a stadium, when the closest seat is 20 meters from the pitch Ouch

As opposed to being at the back of a poorly designed stadium? The new landsdowne Road ( I refuse to call it the Aviva as that's a marketing ploy and Aviva are a shower of bastards)
Is hardly a perfect design. Admittedly it wouldn't be ideal but there's plenty of country that do have running tracks around their pitches (particularly eastern European countries)
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We've had a loud and very good atmosphere for the games in this campaign for the first time in a long period. I personally can't stand stadia with a running track around them. My biggest issue with the Aviva is that the first two rows in the lower stand appear to be somehow slightly below the pitch. 

I'd be in favour of the north stand being completed. we could have good home support in that north stand and put the away fans miles up into the sky somewhere in a corner of the stadium, if only the brits hadn't torn up our stadium from above 20 years ago Thumbs Down
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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Not to mention the toilet entrances are cramped, not suited to the numbers of people coming and going at half time and generally encourage congestion and crushes. There should be an entrance and exit to every toilet but there isn't.


For a stadium built only a few years ago, the toilet situation is shocking altogether. How the feck they managed to design that aspect of the stadium so badly is beyond me.


It must have been a design fault of European Stadia building of the past few years as the toilets in the Warsaw Stadium were even worse. It was Chaotic at half time trying to get into the jacks.
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I do actually like the Aviva despite the poor acoustics. It looks class from the outside.
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Originally posted by thebronze14 thebronze14 wrote:

It's the worst modern stadium I've been in...No love for it at all...Actually it looks well on the outside and is deadly looking from the Point theatre

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Originally posted by Charlton's Child Charlton's Child wrote:

To answer the question yes the north end could be completed to make a full bowl . The way stadiums are designed in the last ten years is so that expanding capacity can be done so with very little work required to the existing structure . To complete the bowl shape you'd probable need 12 months . But a bit like the same situation as Croke park great idea , completely possible but very likely to never happen

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