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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Taking the word of club officials over the Irish Times is a dangerous game.
 
You are contradicting yourself - there is either an issue or there is not. And there clearly is, but how much of it is saber rattling is the question.

But at this moment in time Dundalk do not have a home venue for 2016 which means no licence. If you believe that isn't an issue, good for you. The idea that you are proud of the fact your club are telling the stadium owner to whistle for money is very, very ominous.

GM does not own the stadium!

When you have a clue what your talking about, il listen to your opinion!
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Changed the title to just Dundalk FC. I'll move other stadium stuff here from the other thread.
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Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:

Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Taking the word of club officials over the Irish Times is a dangerous game.
 
You are contradicting yourself - there is either an issue or there is not. And there clearly is, but how much of it is saber rattling is the question.

But at this moment in time Dundalk do not have a home venue for 2016 which means no licence. If you believe that isn't an issue, good for you. The idea that you are proud of the fact your club are telling the stadium owner to whistle for money is very, very ominous.

GM does not own the stadium!

When you have a clue what your talking about, il listen to your opinion!
 
Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:

Its pretty simple
GM wants 100,000 from the club and then he will knock down YDC and hand over the lease.
or 
GM wants 250,000 from the club and they can keep the YDC and get the lease.

The club have been telling him for 2 years now to f**k Off!

This was the exact same situation last season!
 
Maybe owner was the wrong word, but the reality is that you have had issues with your lease for years and refused to engage. Here it is coming to a head.
 
But there is no issue you say. But you also say you might have to play in Sligo or Monaghan.  Confused
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:

Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Taking the word of club officials over the Irish Times is a dangerous game.
 
You are contradicting yourself - there is either an issue or there is not. And there clearly is, but how much of it is saber rattling is the question.

But at this moment in time Dundalk do not have a home venue for 2016 which means no licence. If you believe that isn't an issue, good for you. The idea that you are proud of the fact your club are telling the stadium owner to whistle for money is very, very ominous.

GM does not own the stadium!

When you have a clue what your talking about, il listen to your opinion!
 
Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:

Its pretty simple
GM wants 100,000 from the club and then he will knock down YDC and hand over the lease.
or 
GM wants 250,000 from the club and they can keep the YDC and get the lease.

The club have been telling him for 2 years now to f**k Off!

This was the exact same situation last season!
 
Maybe owner was the wrong word, but the reality is that you have had issues with your lease for years and refused to engage. Here it is coming to a head.
 
But there is no issue you say. But you also say you might have to play in Sligo or Monaghan.  Confused

Who mentioned Sligo? 

If we are not playing in Oriel in 2017, we will be playing in Monaghan, Drogheda or Newry....Nowhere did I mention Sligo
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:

Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Taking the word of club officials over the Irish Times is a dangerous game.
 
You are contradicting yourself - there is either an issue or there is not. And there clearly is, but how much of it is saber rattling is the question.

But at this moment in time Dundalk do not have a home venue for 2016 which means no licence. If you believe that isn't an issue, good for you. The idea that you are proud of the fact your club are telling the stadium owner to whistle for money is very, very ominous.

GM does not own the stadium!

When you have a clue what your talking about, il listen to your opinion!
 
Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:

Its pretty simple
GM wants 100,000 from the club and then he will knock down YDC and hand over the lease.
or 
GM wants 250,000 from the club and they can keep the YDC and get the lease.

The club have been telling him for 2 years now to f**k Off!

This was the exact same situation last season!
 
Maybe owner was the wrong word, but the reality is that you have had issues with your lease for years and refused to engage. Here it is coming to a head.
 
But there is no issue you say. But you also say you might have to play in Sligo or Monaghan.  Confused

if you had to even read the article....

PS. i'm not even going to entertain you on this so don't bother replying, but read the article again

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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:

Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Taking the word of club officials over the Irish Times is a dangerous game.
 
You are contradicting yourself - there is either an issue or there is not. And there clearly is, but how much of it is saber rattling is the question.

But at this moment in time Dundalk do not have a home venue for 2016 which means no licence. If you believe that isn't an issue, good for you. The idea that you are proud of the fact your club are telling the stadium owner to whistle for money is very, very ominous.

GM does not own the stadium!

When you have a clue what your talking about, il listen to your opinion!
 
Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:

Its pretty simple
GM wants 100,000 from the club and then he will knock down YDC and hand over the lease.
or 
GM wants 250,000 from the club and they can keep the YDC and get the lease.

The club have been telling him for 2 years now to f**k Off!

This was the exact same situation last season!
 
Maybe owner was the wrong word, but the reality is that you have had issues with your lease for years and refused to engage. Here it is coming to a head.
 
But there is no issue you say. But you also say you might have to play in Sligo or Monaghan.  Confused

Did you even read the article or know anything about it you clown!

There's been discussions with GM and the owners for 3 years now
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To be fair to RTID, the fact that there has been problems here before is the reason I think there is something to it.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

To be fair to RTID, the fact that there has been problems here before is the reason I think there is something to it.

RTID said "but the reality is that you have had issues with your lease for years and refused to engage"

If he even read the article he would have seen thats not true!

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Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

To be fair to RTID, the fact that there has been problems here before is the reason I think there is something to it.


<span style="line-height: 16.7999992370605px; : rgb251, 251, 253;">RTID said "but the reality is that you have had issues with your lease for years and refused to engage"</span>

If he even read the article he would have seen thats not true!
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Not agreeing with him there, just the fact that it is now an annual issue makes me think it will eventually come to a head, one way or another.
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Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

To be fair to RTID, the fact that there has been problems here before is the reason I think there is something to it.

RTID said "but the reality is that you have had issues with your lease for years and refused to engage"

If he even read the article he would have seen thats not true!

I am talking about what YOU said - that the club, as you so eloquently put it, told GM to f*** off over a couple of seasons. As PM says, this issue didn't just come up last week.
 
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The club have been telling him to f**k off regarding the amount of money GM thinks the YDC is worth, but hey you believe what you want!

Were did you get that the club have not engaged with him? cause thats what you said.

Will we put it down to another one of your lies, and when your caught out you pretend you were talking about something else!



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Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:

The club have been telling him to f**k off regarding the amount of money GM thinks the YDC is worth, but hey you believe what you want!

Were did you get that the club have not engaged with him? cause thats what you said.

Will we put it down to another one of your lies, and when your caught out you pretend you were talking about something else!

You are such an auld wan.
 
YOU said the club told GM to "f**k off" two years running.
 
Yet I am lying when I suggest that means you haven't engaged properly  in an issue that has been dragging on for years.
 
You really couldn't make this stuff up.
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:

The club have been telling him to f**k off regarding the amount of money GM thinks the YDC is worth, but hey you believe what you want!

Were did you get that the club have not engaged with him? cause thats what you said.

Will we put it down to another one of your lies, and when your caught out you pretend you were talking about something else!

You are such an auld wan.
 
YOU said the club told GM to "f**k off" two years running.
 
Yet I am lying when I suggest that means you haven't engaged properly  in an issue that has been dragging on for years.
 
You really couldn't make this stuff up.

I said the club told GM to f**k off as, he has built the YDC on land he had no permission too, used a grant to do this which he will have to pay back if it goes to court so the club are 100% right to play hard ball.

The club have been engaging with GM for 3 years now, thats not a lie! GM thinks its worth more than it is, if that counts as not engaging properly so be it!

and for you to call me a WUM LOLLOL


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Originally posted by Twoinarow Twoinarow wrote:


I said the club told GM to f**k off as, he has built the YDC on land he had no permission too, used a grant to do this which he will have to pay back if it goes to court so the club are 100% right to play hard ball.

The club have been engaging with GM for 3 years now, thats not a lie! GM thinks its worth more than it is, if that counts as not engaging properly so be it!

and for you to call me a WUM LOLLOL


You see the problem is those two statements in bold. Have a little lie down and then come back and try and figure out why they might cause confusion to an already confusing story.
Can any Dundalk fan who has a clue comment on how serious a threat this is or is it all hardball playing that will get sorted by the FAI if needed?
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Dundalk are in a bit of bother alright. Their problem is twofold 1) success = cash and 2) the clock is against them.
 
Of course the current owner is going to say the club will get a licence. What else can he say?
 
If Gerry Matthews either owns the lease or has control of the entity that owns the lease then he has a strong hand. Even if the owners of OP, the Casey family I believe, want the new company that run Dundalk to play in OP, there is still the issue of the lease. There is no getting around this, it has to be dealt with.
 
It was a big step for GM to write to the FAI so he must believe that he has control of the lease. I'm sure he has had he legal boys and girls look at this, as I'm sure the current owners of the club have as well.
 
Whether he is legally entitled to anything for the YDC is another matter. But if he owns/controls the lease and he is honouring his end of the lease agreement with the owners of OP then he has control of the gates to OP.
 
And as nobody seems to dispute that GM has the lease, then therein lies Dundalk's problem.
 
 
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Just to go back to basics on this. Do I understand all this correctly?

GM paid for the YDC. There was a few clauses about how much he was due to be paid by the clubs owners. off the top of my head I think relegation meant a reduced sum to nothing would have been due.
The club were taken over by new owners in that time. They have told him they wont pay him the money he is owed.
He has threatened to level the YDC if he's not paid. Its difficult to find a Dundalk supporter who actually disagrees that he's due money. The club are flush with 2 years of CL money but refuse to pay their bills.
Am I correct on all that?
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