U.S Politics

Noble peac prize for the Donald? 

An historic day. It will take a lot more meetings and summits to get to a denuclearised North Korea. If anyone actually thought it was going to happen quickly is clueless. 

alihau41 wrote: absolute showpiece event. historic day for north korea for the reason that they get validation on nuclear stage with no concessions on nuclear weapons, human rights etc. nothing about lifting sanctions either.

Edited by Denis Irwin - 12 Jun 2018 at 1:40pm

coyne wrote: alihau41 wrote: absolute showpiece event. historic day for north korea for the reason that they get validation on nuclear stage with no concessions on nuclear weapons, human rights etc. nothing about lifting sanctions either. Let's be real here. Nothing was ever going to be concluded after 1 meeting, it will probably take a dozen just to get the Japanese prisoners thing sorted never mind nuclear missiles. Kim's got the rockstar A-List celebrity status treatment to show to everyone back home which puts him in an advantageous position, Trump's problem is if Kim starts firing missiles again Trump will look like and probably feel like a right moron after all of this.

The lefties are disgusted that the summit lasted 4.5 hours, and they signed a declaration of Intent. They were boasting that Trump would fuc it up in the first 4.5 minutes and the missiles would rain down on Seoul by the end of the week. Some of them were actually cheering on the mass murderer,  who has slaughtered members of his own family and handed Warmbier back to Trump last year in a vegetative state.

planning wrote: The lefties are disgusted that the summit lasted 4.5 hours, and they signed a declaration of Intent. They were boasting that Trump would fuc it up in the first 4.5 minutes and the missiles would rain down on Seoul by the end of the week. Some of them were actually cheering on the mass murderer,  who has slaughtered members of his own family and handed Warmbier back to Trump last year in a vegetative state. Realistically, nothing more ambitious can be signed for now untill Japan, China, and South Korea have given it the green light. But a lot more progress was made than was expected, and thanks to Trump, the region is a little bit safer today than it was last night.

Edited by Denis Irwin - 12 Jun 2018 at 4:13pm

Denis Irwin wrote: Roberto Baggio wrote: planning wrote: The lefties are disgusted that the summit lasted 4.5 hours, and they signed a declaration of Intent. They were boasting that Trump would fuc it up in the first 4.5 minutes and the missiles would rain down on Seoul by the end of the week. Some of them were actually cheering on the mass murderer,  who has slaughtered members of his own family and handed Warmbier back to Trump last year in a vegetative state. Realistically, nothing more ambitious can be signed for now untill Japan, China, and South Korea have given it the green light. But a lot more progress was made than was expected, and thanks to Trump, the region is a little bit safer today than it was last night.    No matter what you think of Trump or his intentions here, its hard to argue against this.     Yes it is.

Roberto Baggio wrote: Now bear in mind that the same people were predicting the lunatic in the oval office would press the red button when he got made president.

To evaluate this, I think you have to ask yourself what your feelings would be if it was Obama in Trump's shoes. In a vacuum of course, as his behaviour last weekend was contemptible, but does this merit credit as an individual piece of diplomacy, or is the whole thing a window dressing exercise with little substance.