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€50m over ten years doesn't sound great tbh. A lot of clubs ( e.g. Arsenal) in different sports have found themselves earning significantly less, compared to their rivals, a few years after signing up to these long term contracts.

The only way to truly judge whether it is a good deal is towards the end of the contract.

In relation to the FAI the next few years will be interesting and possibly very worrying.
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Comparing the Premier League to the this deal is completely off the mark. This €50 million or whatever amount it will be is about securing and developing the IRFU's current finances and game.

They had as much debt attached to the redevelopment of Lansdown Road as the FAI. One organisation is €51million in debt the other signs a deal for €50 million.

I wonder which ceo gets paid more?
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Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:

RTID, good to have you back

You never came back to me in the other thread

http://www.ybig.ie/forum/fai-agm_topic49499_page6.html

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Came back with what? The GAA don't provide 'full' accounts - find me what their CEO earns.
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Originally posted by Bob Hoskins Bob Hoskins wrote:

Comparing the Premier League to the this deal is completely off the mark. This €50 million or whatever amount it will be is about securing and developing the IRFU's current finances and game.

They had as much debt attached to the redevelopment of Lansdown Road as the FAI. One organisation is €51million in debt the other signs a deal for €50 million.

I wonder which ceo gets paid more?
We have no idea because the IRFU don't disclose Browne's salary.
 
But I know which one was insolvent and had to borrow from the bank to run the show day to day for almost a year.


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People are doing the usual cap doffing to the IRFU.
 
Yes, they got what on paper looks to be a great sponsoship deal while ignoring the fact they had to go and get one in the first place.
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Originally posted by Stoked Up Stoked Up wrote:

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Also many football fans and players here would still associate more with Man Utd and Liverpool than even our national team.
Would more people buy an EPL/SPL jersey over an Irish national team one?
I don't know what the breakdown of sales of jerseys would be. When I visit a sports shop there's usually just as much Irish gear on display as any of the English clubs.

Although I'm sure if you added them all together they'd outnumber the Irish ones.

Found a sales sheet outside the back of a major sports retailer recently of 5 different jerseys on sale across their Dublin stores, Liverpool, United, Spurs and Ireland’s home & away were included. Trends across the different stores differed but generally, if 100 jerseys in total were sold: 35 were Liverpool, 30 United, 20 Ireland home, 10 Ireland away and 5 spurs.


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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

People are doing the usual cap doffing to the IRFU.
 
Yes, they got what on paper looks to be a great sponsoship deal while ignoring the fact they had to go and get one in the first place.

What do you mean by this ?

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They were sponsored by o2. Three bought o2 and cut the deal short.

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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

They were sponsored by o2. Three bought o2 and cut the deal short.




Deal was up next year
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From 2013. But still a good insight into the running of the IRFU and Philip Browne.



Big foes lie in wait for Irish rugby boss

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Saturday, April 06, 2013

In charge of rugby here since 1998, Philip Browne has overseen a transformation of fortunes on and off the field. But will a change of coach at national level be enough to keep the champagne flowing, asks Kyran Fitzgerald

This week, the axe finally fell on Declan Kidney, the 2009 Grand Slam-winning coach. The man reluctantly applying the coup de grâce, Philip Browne, is hardly a household name.

However, the low-profile IRFU chief executive presides over an organisation with an annual income approaching €70m and a player base in excess of 150,000 people.

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The revenues of the country’s rugby body have trebled in the past decade, but are the good times drawing to a close?

Certainly, the CEOs of Irish organisations are under the spotlight as never before. This week, delegates at the Irish Medical Organisation annual conference scrutinised the details of the extraordinary employment contract of their former chief, George McNeice.

There have been some rumblings in the Law Society about the salary of long-serving director general Ken Murphy while the FAI boss, John Delaney, continues to attract unwelcome attention concerning his hefty pay package.

However, little in the way of mud has stuck to the man responsible for the day-to-day running of the country’s second largest sporting organisation, behind the GAA.

Philip Browne has filled the post of IRFU chief executive since 1998. A quietly spoken individual, and one-time champion rower, he has been happy to operate under the radar during a period when the finances of the country’s rugby body have under-gone a transformation during what have been halcyon days for the game.

Meanwhile, John Delaney — the son of a top FAI stalwart — has exerted a strong grip over his organisation and has been happy to cultivate a high-public profile, famously buying drinks for the fans at Euro 2012 in Poland before emerging bleary eyed from the festivities.

However, Browne has provided rather less in the way of entertaining copy for the news and sports desks. Respectability is the name of the game.

Educated in the fashionable, largely Protestant boarding school of St Columba’s in the foothills of the Dublin mountains, and later at Trinity College Dublin, Browne has no problem dealing with the comm-ittee men who have the final say in all decisions that emanate from the IRFU headquarters in the precincts of the Aviva Stadium.

A new president, Billy Glynn, has recently taken over. A partner in the law firm Ronan Daly Jermyn, based in Galway, he presided over Connacht rugby a dozen years ago.

Browne has overseen a restructuring in the organisation, with the appointment of new executives including former Ryanair PRO Stephen McNamara.

Browne already had a few big files on his tray — he would not have wished for the task of replacing Ireland’s most successful rugby coach to be added to that list.

One suspects that the file pulled most frequently from the drawer is that marked ‘Heineken Cup broadcasting rights income’.

The Heineken Cup has been an extraordinary success story and the dominance of the Irish provinces was something never foreseen when the competition launched in the mid-1990s.

Success on the field has been replicated off the pitch.

Between 2001 and 2010, revenues jumped from €21.6m to just over €69m while numbers of registered players have mushroomed from 90,000 to 152,000 by 2011.

Under the current European Rugby Cup arrangements, the IRFU receives revenues from the ERC, the body which runs the Heineken and Amlin European rugby competitions, amounting to around €16m a year, or almost one-quarter of the total divvy out.

The English and French clubs have made it clear that they are looking for a much greater share of the spoils once the current deal runs out at the end of next season.

The IRFU would be down by €11m if it were to be confined to receiving its fair share and no more (based on gate/viewer numbers). A breakdown of revenues reveals that around 40% of income is accounted for by ticketing with more than one-quarter coming from TV rights.

Sponsorship has been running at around €10m, but earlier this year, a blow came with the news that Puma was ending its lucrative shirt sponsorship, with a gradual rundown to the summer of 2014.

Puma indicated that this is part of a global restruct-uring of sponsorships. However, sales of rugby shirts have halved since the onset of a recession which has also eaten into ticket sales and, in particular, into the sales of 10-year Aviva stadium tickets, 3,200 of which needed be shifted.

By the mid-March deadline, half of these tickets had been sold at €9,000 each (the same price as in 2003). The remainder have been absorbed by the IRFU’s commercial programme.

The IRFU says it is making progress in replacing Puma, adding that it has received acceptable compensation.

The IRFU has, until recently, ridden out the recession extraordinarily well. As a result, the organisation has had little difficulty keeping up payments on its loans related to the Aviva Stadium, which opened in 2010, boosted by a generous rights deal and by a large tranche of government money (almost €200m of the €410m total cost, the residue being shared between the IRFU and the FAI).

At its AGM in Jul 2011, Browne and treasurer Tom Grace, former rugby international and top insolvency practitioner, warned of tough times ahead. Browne pointed out that the budget for provincial and domestic games would have to be reduced if income falls.

Last July, he conceded that the IRFU would have to give ground on broadcasting rights’ income to ensure the Heineken Cup’s survival.

The IRFU still managed to report revenues for 2011 of €67.3m — down slightly on 2010 — with a surplus of almost €8m being used, in part, to pay down stadium debt.

Net debt was down to €13m by the end of April last year.

2012 brought further Heineken Cup success for the provinces, with Leinster picking up the trophy, but December marked what could be a turning point. The champions exited in the pool stages, suffering a home defeat to French club Clermont, a rising force on the back of a wave of business money.

Irish players suffered a severe physical battering in the recent Six Nations, too. The concern is that the Irish provinces could endure similar punishment as the pendulum swings back towards increasingly well-resourced clubs in France and England.

Browne and the IRFU must walk a fine line between underpinning the national team and backing the provinces.

Browne has announced a clampdown on the use of foreign players by the provinces in an effort to provide more scope for homegrown players to advance their careers. But such a move runs the risk of backfiring if the provinces head for an early bath at the end of the Heineken Cup pool stages next year.

Lower gates, reduced sponsorships, and an exit of star players such as Johnny Sexton could become the order of the day.

Coach Declan Kidney was put to the sword with brisk efficiency. Gentlemen are often adept at carrying out executions, but will the carnage stop here?

Getting to know: Philip Browne

- Age: 52.

- Born: Dublin.

- Education: St Columba’s, Rathfarnham; The High School. TCD — science degree. PhD. MBA.

- Career: Andersen Consulting. Institute of Clinical Pharmacology. 
- 1992: Joins IRFU. 1995: IRFU secretary.

- 1998 to date: CEO.

- Family: Married to Ann Marie. Two children.

- Leisure: Hillwalking; swimming.

- Other: Represented Ireland at two world rowing championships.

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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:

RTID, good to have you back

You never came back to me in the other thread

http://www.ybig.ie/forum/fai-agm_topic49499_page6.html

Allow me too post your link correctly Ger......
Came back with what? The GAA don't provide 'full' accounts - find me what their CEO earns.

Is that seriously all you have?
Paraic Duffy's salary?

Can you answer all the other points?
You were wrong about media being invited to their AGM. The accounts the media get from the GAA piss all over the FAI's in terms of transparency 
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Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:

Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:

RTID, good to have you back

You never came back to me in the other thread

http://www.ybig.ie/forum/fai-agm_topic49499_page6.html

Allow me too post your link correctly Ger......
Came back with what? The GAA don't provide 'full' accounts - find me what their CEO earns.

Is that seriously all you have?
Paraic Duffy's salary?

Can you answer all the other points?
You were wrong about media being invited to their AGM. The accounts the media get from the GAA piss all over the FAI's in terms of transparency 
If they are more transparant, you can find me Duffy's salary in the same way the FAI accounts show Delaney's.
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

They were sponsored by o2. Three bought o2 and cut the deal short.




Deal was up next year
So is the FAI's, but they didn't pull that...
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:


They were sponsored by o2. Three bought o2 and cut the deal short.




Deal was up next year
So is the FAI's, but they didn't pull that...


But they didn't pull it they had an option to renew but didn't want to match Vodafone's offer which is double what O2/Three paid last time out.Talking out of your hole as usual

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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

But they didn't pull it they had an option to renew but didn't want to match Vodafone's offer which is double what O2/Three paid last time out.Talking out of your hole as usual
Vodafone stepped in when Three pulled out. Its a result for the IRFU, but lets not pretend they planned it.
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

But they didn't pull it they had an option to renew but didn't want to match Vodafone's offer which is double what O2/Three paid last time out.Talking out of your hole as usual
Vodafone stepped in when Three pulled out. Its a result for the IRFU, but lets not pretend they planned it.





You really are unbelievable with the sh*te you come out with. No doubt you'll do your usual disappearing act soon enough. What part of the deal being up next year do you have a problem with understanding.

Edited by Denis Irwin - 14 Jul 2015 at 3:06pm
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Three told the IRFU they were availing of the get out clause. The IRFU went out and got a new sponsor. Is this too complicated for you?
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Originally posted by roverstillidie roverstillidie wrote:

Three told the IRFU they were availing of the get out clause. The IRFU went out and got a new sponsor. Is this too complicated for you?


Eh the deal is up next year they signed a 5 year deal back in 2011. Stop trying to make this out to be something that's it not.You've gone very quiet in the Ryanair thread given You've been found out to be talking out of your hole in their as well
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