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absolutely brilliant interview with Andy Townsend on the quickly Kevin podcast. On Spotify if you have it but I’m sure you’ll find it elsewhere if you don’t 


Some brilliant Jack stories. Such a great time
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Is there anything planned to pay tribute to Jack at first game back with fans? 
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Finally watched the Finding Jack Charlton film on the weekend as I wanted to wait to watch it with the auld boy when he got a chance. 

Was great to see some new footage from Italia 90 and camera pitch side angles I never seen before. 

The bit where he manages to recognize McGrath as he's watching the laptop was very poignant. That was tough to watch. Cry
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that was a quick year. 
Wow indeed very quick
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that was a quick year. 
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that’s a poor review 
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Originally posted by seanyshuffler seanyshuffler wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

How do lads think Jack would do with the current squad in his prime.  What starting 11 would be pick do people think as we have to honest he did have the finest squad we ever had or probably ever will have. 



Btw, not sure why people get personal on here but each to their own. It’s just debating points.  


I've always said he would have loved Shane Long , he would have been his typical Forward harrier.
Jack's tactics wouldn't work in today's game. They might have been innovative at the time but the game has moved on and teams have found ways around it.

Growing up playing underage football we used to play a similar kind of tactic. Basically kick it into the corners and press up. Very successful underage but it was puke football looking back at it.

Same at home I was 18/19 and I was the poor Tommy Coyne figure.  Remember playing Newcastle west in the fai junior  cup I think they were only a couple of years out of LOI.  I didnt touch the ball once other than kick off. Lost 2-0 should have been 27-0.  Jesus the wannabe Charlton's then were a pain in the hole. Get rid of it get rid of it. The success of Charlton had a negative impact on how many saw how the game played esp in the country.  GAA lads parachuted into the team when their club got knocked out of the championship and they were bored and needed a means to run around on a Sunday.  Technique was considered a negative and when you countered it, you would get the success of big Jack thrown back in your face. 


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I was also surprised that they didn't include Jack coming back to Lansdowne for the England friendly. It would have been a perfect ending - getting an ovation from both Ireland and England fans.

And Jack said previously that the cheque story was a rehash of one that used to be said about Stanley Matthews. Him having to pay for a pint really doesn't make sense.

And the Long-ball game could still be effective. The best teams can beat a press and hold onto the ball, but most others would struggle to play against a proper "put em under pressure" style. 

Jack would love players like Duffy and especially McClean, who he would want to clone. People on this site would be going bananas!


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If the whole team presses and does it correctly its still a nightmare to play against. 
Its easy to play against if its half hearted or if there  lazy players in midfield or up front  not doing it.  Everyone has to do it or its fairly sh*t.
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

How do lads think Jack would do with the current squad in his prime.  What starting 11 would be pick do people think as we have to honest he did have the finest squad we ever had or probably ever will have. 



Btw, not sure why people get personal on here but each to their own. It’s just debating points.  


I've always said he would have loved Shane Long , he would have been his typical Forward harrier.
Jack's tactics wouldn't work in today's game. They might have been innovative at the time but the game has moved on and teams have found ways around it.

Growing up playing underage football we used to play a similar kind of tactic. Basically kick it into the corners and press up. Very successful underage but it was puke football looking back at it.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

How do lads think Jack would do with the current squad in his prime.  What starting 11 would be pick do people think as we have to honest he did have the finest squad we ever had or probably ever will have. 



Btw, not sure why people get personal on here but each to their own. It’s just debating points.  


I've always said he would have loved Shane Long , he would have been his typical Forward harrier.
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Originally posted by Slow & Blind Slow & Blind wrote:

The Jack and Bobby rivalry is local to Newcastle too. Even though Jack was very unpopular when he managed Newcastle because of his style of football, he has always been liked and respected for what he achieved in football. Jack kept his Geordie accent and was proud of where he came from, Bobby changed his accent to fit in with Man United and the English FA types and never came back to the area.

That's another one which brought a tear to my eye, singing the Blaydon Races, he was a Geordie til the very end was Jack
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The Jack and Bobby rivalry is local to Newcastle too. Even though Jack was very unpopular when he managed Newcastle because of his style of football, he has always been liked and respected for what he achieved in football. Jack kept his Geordie accent and was proud of where he came from, Bobby changed his accent to fit in with Man United and the English FA types and never came back to the area.
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Originally posted by McG McG wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Jack had many flaws but was also a great character and a decent man.  There is a huge element of Irish fans esp who think the sun shone from his arse and he could do no wrong and he was almost perfect.  That is far from the truth and it actually does his legacy a disservice.  He was a simple man but to talk about him simply is incorrect.  There was a great podcast Dunphy and Brady and Giles did during lockdown which is well worth a listen.  If it was the only thing on Jack it would be deeply unfair but it’s a great addition to the canon of stuff on him as it gives another side to the story.  Giles was one of his best mates but is well able to critically analyse his football management and also is very stubborn nature.  Some of the stories of Jack getting thick are priceless.  Jack was also tighter than Newryrep.  He borrowed a Tenner from I think Ronnie Whelan or Jim Beglin before the first Ireland March 35 years ago at Manchester airport 😀😀 first time they met and he never gave it back 

Sure the famous one was paying for booze in a pub by cheque, knowing there was a strong chance the cheque would never be lodged. 

I'm pretty sure Jack himself called this out as bull  (might well have been during that excellent interview he did for desert Island discs). I think he said it was a rehash of a story that used to be told about John Charles.

He said that his bill was usually settled before he had a chance to pay, which is believable in fairness  
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

How do lads think Jack would do with the current squad in his prime.  What starting 11 would be pick do people think as we have to honest he did have the finest squad we ever had or probably ever will have. 



Btw, not sure why people get personal on here but each to their own. It’s just debating points.  


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