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Hotlips_Hoolahan
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Rangers have always had board members and staff members who are members of the Orange Order. Plenty of their fans have links to the Orange Order. Are you denying this? Aside from that, I interpreted his comment as being made in jest. No different to Rangers boards constantly referring to Catholics and Irish as "tarriers" or "tatty munchers" or "papists" with no reproach from moderators. In fact, I'd argue RB's comment is tame in comparison since it is not a derogatory slur based on race or religion. For someone who has no time for Rangers, you have all the time in the world for defending the actions of their fans and the club as a whole, which strikes me as highly suspicious. Ergo, you blaming the sectarian actions of a large segment of NI fans in Belfast on "them Chelsea fans" despite video evidence to the contrary. Seeing you for what you are and taking a dim view of your defense of the bigoted actions of a vocal cohort (stain) of NI fans does not make me a bigot, no matter how many times you level that slur against me. Take ownership of the actions of segments of your fanbase. Blaming Chelsea fans or your whataboutery re: "Celtic fans are just as bad" gets nobody anywhere.
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The Huntacha
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This is not the thread for balanced opinions.
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Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
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Martiponti
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Yeah, the ref was an eccentric.
The two different boots and his customised whistle that played Ode to Joy were the giveaways. FIFA will have to tighten their selection process
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Martiponti
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I'd be pretty sure FIFA have a process for appealing against red cards. If there is, why wasn't it used?
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In fairness, there is an element within Southern Ireland who do that that attitude. |
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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Het-field
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Does it? Red cards resulting from two yellows were historically seen as too complex, as you would have you revoke one of the cards. A straight red is an easy appeal. Two yellows, not as much.
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Het-field
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Yeah, but it doesn’t mean posters have the right to throw it at me without anything to back it up.
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Martiponti
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So you can't appeal a red card resulting from two yellows?
That'll be the answer, then! I didn't know that
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Martiponti
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Ruth Dud-Edwards is never going to say outright "I hate Northern Nationalist scum., the ones we put up for adoption who will appear back at the door and possibly upset the home we've built"
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Martiponti
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Het-field
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What RDE says is irrelevant to your “people like you...” comment. It was unsubstantiated and baseless and unfair.
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Territorial
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There you go again, polluting the NI thread with anti-Rangers stuff, like a "pound shop tonyjaa". Fact is, not all NI fans are Rangers fans and not all Rangers fans are NI fans, nor are they/we all members of the OO. Therefore to lump everyone all in together is pure, blinkered prejudice.
Provide me with one example of where I have denied or condoned, never mind defended Rangers (club or fans) when they have misbehaved. You won't, because you can't My view is quite simple. From what I can see (never been to Ibrox), the majority of Rangers fans are probably decent enough, while a minority are bigoted scum. And while you can argue all day over the respective percentages, I would say exactly the same about Celtic fans. Further, I would say pretty much the same about most other teams, including my own NT (and yours). But the reason I have particular disdain for the OF is simple. While other clubs or Associations are usually concerned to try to exclude the minority which shame them, Rangers and Celtic routinely condone their presence, whilst conspicuously avoiding taking any serious, effective action against them - at least so long as they continue to dominate Scottish football and Ibrox and Parkhead are sold out every week. For that reason, I am contemptuous of both clubs and would never even consider supporting either.. Now let's see you try to twist that to "prove" that I'm really a Rangers fan.
Provide me with one example of where I have defended "the bigoted actions" of any NI fan. Fact is, it is your determination to ascribe thoughts and opinions to me which I simply do not hold, even in the face of numerous unequivocal posts to the contrary (eg "Rangers fan"), which makes you a bigot.
I have never denied that a minority of NI fans sometimes behave deplorably. But I resent it when you attempt to use their misbehaviour - never mind that of Rangers and Chelsea - to try to tar us all with the same brush, as you rotinely do, without evidence, discernrnent or discrimination. Which would be bad enough, but I'm prepared to bet you've never been to an NI game - at least in NI - in your entire life. In fact, I doubt you've ever had a serious conversation with an NI fanabout any of this, at least face-to-face and away from the anonymity of the keyboard. |
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
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LOL. Now he's threatening me.
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
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https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2021/08/13/news/chelsea-fans-follow-loyalist-flute-band-ahead-of-uefa-super-cup-clash-2416671/
Have a read of this, Terri. When a club's supporters engage in sectarianism or racism, you're supposed to condemn it, not blame Chelsea and engage in whataboutery about Celtic fans. Rangers and Celtic fans both have dodgy elements but you're being facetious if you say that Celtic's problems with their fanbase are in any way comparable to that of Rangers when thousands of Rangers fans still engage in sectarian chanting on a weekly basis. But, then again, you're keeping your head in the sand about the links between Chelsea, Rangers and Linfield, so no surprises there! But you're more than welcome to tell us all what the point was of a loyalist flute band leading Chelsea fans to Windsor and creating a toxic atmosphere at a match played between an English side and a Spanish side. You can call me a bigot and assert that you don't have an allegiance to Rangers on this issue all you want. When a vocal segment of RoI fans engage in sectarian chanting at our home matches you can also compare the two sets of supporters, but again, we all know it's complete and utter nonsense to say that Ireland supporters have the same problem with inclusivity that the North does. I never said all NI fans are bigots by the way, and you know this, but it's telling that you get so defensive when I bring up the issues within a segment of your fanbase. Nor did I say all NI fans are Rangers fans. I implied that you are, and with good reason. Don't make stuff up.
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Territorial
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"Blah blah Rangers blah blah Chelsea blah blah blah the North blah Orange Order blah blah...." Why do you bother? Why not just post "Themmuns!" and be done with it? Hell, why do I bother, when your own words condemn you more eloquently than I ever could? Anyhow, I'll leave you to simmer in your own stew of resentment, suspicion and prejudice.
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
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I wouldn't say it to his face because he'd beat me up I believe is the nuance. My dad is bigger than your dad kind of stuff. I wouldn't want to be in a room alone with him but it's because of his personality type not anything else.
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